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i saw a 2018 demo on utube this morning of there new speed queen washer.i dont like what i saw and i dont think you guys will either. check it out.

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Hi @Pooky1. Give us a hint. Guessing games often fall flat here. What did you find bothersome?
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I’d love to see it. Provide a link.

 

The Mods allow informational links, but not links to competitive items.  I have no idea where to find the video you mention without a link. 

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Hi, @Pooky1 - always enjoy your discussions.

 

I don't feel it is doom and gloom.  I gave up an old Whirlpool with endless water wasting capacity for a Hotpoint that has been built to meet (good for the planet) specs.

 

It is a top-load with an agitator, and it does a great job, even with my King-sized bedding.

 

What I have learned, through research and experience, is that it is about agitation, not lots of water swishing around, that cleans clothes.  Our ancestors used a wash board, and before that, beat them on rocks.  

 

The newer machines appear to not fill, but as displacement happens, the fabrics become soaked and then agitation happens, which is the laundering part.  Not to mention the toll on drainage systems with water wasted in the old machines.  It impacts water purity.

 

The spin cycle of the "new" machines is long, as it has been shown (no references cited but I believe it is common knowledge), that modern day dryers are energy hogs, compared to their counterpart washing machines.  Thus, drying times are reduced.  When I can, I do use wind and sun to dry clothing.  For free.  And no toll on Mother Nature.

 

The advent of front loaders has been due, in part, to their ability to use less water to agitate (beat) clothes clean. Dryers, to me, are the things that kill clothing fabrics more so than the washers.

 

I work a blue collar job and get plenty dirty.  The new Hotpoint gets my clothes clean.  Part of what I do for a living is to attempt to educate people on the beauty of Nature and how to live in conjunction with her.

 

Have a nice evening and Happy Holidays all!!! YMMV.

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Re: 2018 speed queen

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not sure how to give a linc but i typed in 2018 speed queen and you can click on a couple places that show a demonstration on the 2018 sq washer. i found wash action so much slower.and peoples comments said the same much slower.

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@Sweetbay magnolia wrote:

Hi, @Pooky1 - always enjoy your discussions.

 

I don't feel it is doom and gloom.  I gave up an old Whirlpool with endless water wasting capacity for a Hotpoint that has been built to meet (good for the planet) specs.

 

It is a top-load with an agitator, and it does a great job, even with my King-sized bedding.

 

What I have learned, through research and experience, is that it is about agitation, not lots of water swishing around, that cleans clothes.  Our ancestors used a wash board, and before that, beat them on rocks.  

 

The newer machines appear to not fill, but as displacement happens, the fabrics become soaked and then agitation happens, which is the laundering part.  Not to mention the toll on drainage systems with water wasted in the old machines.  It impacts water purity.

 

The spin cycle of the "new" machines is long, as it has been shown (no references cited but I believe it is common knowledge), that modern day dryers are energy hogs, compared to their counterpart washing machines.  Thus, drying times are reduced.  When I can, I do use wind and sun to dry clothing.  For free.  And no toll on Mother Nature.

 

The advent of front loaders has been due, in part, to their ability to use less water to agitate (beat) clothes clean. Dryers, to me, are the things that kill clothing fabrics more so than the washers.

 

I work a blue collar job and get plenty dirty.  The new Hotpoint gets my clothes clean.  Part of what I do for a living is to attempt to educate people on the beauty of Nature and how to live in conjunction with her.

 

Have a nice evening and Happy Holidays all!!! YMMV.


 

I'm going to offer a differing opinion. 

 

Something 'designed and manufactured for efficiency' isn't that at all if people have to over use it to get the results wanted. 

 

There are some loads of laundry that will clean effectively with less water, but there are those that simply won't. 

 

I live with a mechanic and a machinist, and we live a small farm like lifestyle, and no low water washer will clean much of the laundry we generate properly, or to get it to happen, will have to be washed multiple times, using as much water as a standard washer (and more electric in the long run). I often have laundry so dirty that I need to soak clothing for hours, and that is only effective when there is sufficient water. 

 

Water is not a premium everywhere in this country or the world for that matter. And while conservation is always an honorable goal, there are different needs, wants and priorities for different people based on individual needs and circumstances, and locations.

 

People fall for the 'conservation' mantra, when in fact, if they truly analyze their usage of various resources, conserving one, may actually over use others, and it isn't always as cut and dried as environmentalist would like us to believe, nor are all resources equally limited in all areas. 

 

I believe everyone should conserve in all areas they can but that not everyone is going to conserve in all areas equally. We all do what we can where we can, and for some, water conservation may not match that of others, while conservation of some other resources my be much greater.

 

What I don't need, is regulation, especially at the national level, about my use of resources. Local issues that might require it are more understandable though.  

 

 

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When I bought my Speed Queen pair a few years ago, I was told that the company would be allowed to sell their standard design through 2017 but then in 2018 the government regulation (that already affected other manufacturers) would kick in and they'd have to conform. They were allowed to sell through 2017 but then had to switch over to the new "conservation/efficiency" design.

 

i will keep this Speed Queen pair until I die, that's for sure.

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Well said, @Mominohio

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I've seen it pooky and I agree it looks awful.  If anyone is even thinking of getting a speed queen you better act fast and get a 2017 model.

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@Sweetbay magnolia wrote:

 

I don't feel it is doom and gloom.  I gave up an old Whirlpool with endless water wasting capacity for a Hotpoint that has been built to meet (good for the planet) specs.

 

It is a top-load with an agitator, and it does a great job, even with my King-sized bedding.

 

What I have learned, through research and experience, is that it is about agitation, not lots of water swishing around, that cleans clothes.  Our ancestors used a wash board, and before that, beat them on rocks.  

 

The newer machines appear to not fill, but as displacement happens, the fabrics become soaked and then agitation happens, which is the laundering part.  Not to mention the toll on drainage systems with water wasted in the old machines.  It impacts water purity.

 

The spin cycle of the "new" machines is long, as it has been shown (no references cited but I believe it is common knowledge), that modern day dryers are energy hogs, compared to their counterpart washing machines.  Thus, drying times are reduced.  When I can, I do use wind and sun to dry clothing.  For free.  And no toll on Mother Nature.

 

Dryers, to me, are the things that kill clothing fabrics more so than the washers.

 

Part of what I do for a living is to attempt to educate people on the beauty of Nature and how to live in conjunction with her.

 

 


@Sweetbay magnolia

 

I deleted/edited a lot of your post, but agree with it in it's entirety.

 

My top loaders aren't Hotpoints, but I do like the agitators. 

 

I can override the water level, but have been pleased to let a 'smart' machine decide for me and have never been disappointed.  

 

I so agree with you on line drying.  I bet I've only used the dryer 3 times in the past year.  Our clothes don't look milky/faded when they dry outside.