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02-13-2018 06:11 AM - edited 02-13-2018 06:18 AM
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wrote:It's most likely got to do with regional dialects or language evolution. The subject has been raised here ad nauseum.
@RoughDraft I applaud you. Ad nauseum is correct. I have explained in at least 4 or 5 posts. I do know CP lived in Ct. for a number of years. I lived there for 17 years and everyday heard bu-on, co-on, li-ile, etc. It is a regional dialect as you stated.
02-13-2018 06:13 AM
wrote:It is regional but I'm not sure which region. I hear it fairly often on different TV shows.
Ct. You hear it every day there.
02-13-2018 08:29 AM
wrote:Is your last name Sparticus?
Would that be pronounced, Spar'icus?
I also hear this (and have heard it for years) from young women (never males), which is odd. I'm inclined to think it is not necessarily regional, but that they just do not enunciate.
02-13-2018 11:25 AM
wrote:I work at a college and notice many young women (guys don't do this) skim over the double 't' when speaking. Not an impediment, nor regional accent - just a trendy way for younger women to speak and it will fade away. Remember valley girl speak where they would say 'like' all the time? You seldom hear that now. Daughter works in education with high school girls and has also noticed this. If you don't hear it often, you would wonder. I'm not going to assume poster is being mean.
Have you heard Isaac and Shawn speak? Every other word is "like". Middle aged teen talk.
02-13-2018 07:56 PM
Work part-time in a library in west Michigan and I was just speaking to our children’s librarian about this today. They are dropping the ‘t’ in words. It’s just a cutesy way of speaking. Drives me, like, nuts.
02-13-2018 08:52 PM
wrote:If I ever heard anyone pronouncing words like button and cotton and butter with a strong t sound, it would sound odd. I can't remember ever hearing the full t sound with these words from anyone except from my grandmother who was from Italy and overpronounced many things. It just seems like it would sound forced and not natural talking.
A young man who worked for us actually did pronounce the t in words like that, and yes, it did sound odd. I particularly remember that he fully pronounced the t in "metal." Turns out that he had speech therapy as a child.
02-13-2018 10:35 PM
Just about everyone uses the gutteral stop when pronouncing the letter t in the middle of a word. However, the "proper" way to do it, using "cotton" for example, is to say cott'n, and not cott-in. The latter sounds like something a five year old would say. Same with button; butt'n sounds more adult than butt-in.
Every once in a while when Martha Stewart gets all high and mighty, she will pronounce the ts in question like regular ts; and yes, it sounds kind of strange.
02-13-2018 10:45 PM
wrote:v
wrote:It's most likely got to do with regional dialects or language evolution. The subject has been raised here ad nauseum.
@RoughDraft I applaud you. Ad nauseum is correct. I have explained in at least 4 or 5 posts. I do know CP lived in Ct. for a number of years. I lived there for 17 years and everyday heard bu-on, co-on, li-ile, etc. It is a regional dialect as you stated.
I hear both of you!
Everyone I hear who uses the dropped T pronunciation is from Connecticut.
I suppose it's just more fun to use this as just more youth slamming fodder
02-13-2018 10:59 PM
wrote:v
wrote:It's most likely got to do with regional dialects or language evolution. The subject has been raised here ad nauseum.
@RoughDraft I applaud you. Ad nauseum is correct. I have explained in at least 4 or 5 posts. I do know CP lived in Ct. for a number of years. I lived there for 17 years and everyday heard bu-on, co-on, li-ile, etc. It is a regional dialect as you stated.
@gmkb @Ms tyrion2 Not from CT, but I spent a lot of time there in my youth. That's not where I learned it but I know it's there. I can't speak for all of the mid-Atlantic states but Pennsylvania, New Jersey and Delaware don't throw or stress double T's around either. It slows down our speech patterns. ![]()
02-14-2018 09:03 AM
@chessyladywrote:What speech impediment? She has a squeaky voice but no impediment I have noticed. The Sketchers vendor is the one I noticed with the silent t.
Are you sure it was QVC - I ask because HSN had a Sketchers TSV a day or two ago, & the vendor was on a lot.
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