Re: "We Will Rise"

Sooner · ‎03-10-2010

@Lila Belle wrote:
@Sooner wrote:
@suzyQ3 wrote:
@Lila Belle wrote:
@Sooner wrote:
@Lila Belle wrote:
Oh, my. I hope that you are watching this on CNN. I really hope they repeat this. It's about girls and education in Africa and of course throughout the world.

As women we need to be reminded of of our strength and power to invoke change.
I think the most impowering thing that women can do is stop thinking "as women" but as people who have power and strength. I think the sooner we get over our differences of gender, race, or nationality as see one another as individuals and not divisive groups, change will come fast for the world.

We all have power to invoke change--in ourselves.
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Not every nation respects and empowers girls and women. Imagine being held down because of your gender. Our country did it by denying opportunities for women in educational endeavors and employment and the right to be an equal citizen.The voe that is.

To not support and empower our sisters, no matter where we live in this world, is a form of discrimonation, bigotry and backwardness that will impact on our daughters and our sons.
@Lila Belle, I think something got messed up here. That is not a quote from @Sooner but rather from @Maudelyn.
I don't think anyone should be held back because of their gender; nor do I think they should be promoted because of their gender. I think people should be taken and valued for the individuals they are. I don't think we will ever get to equality if we look a the world because of gender, race, nationality, etc. I'd change it to "support and empower our brothers and sisters. . . "
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Uh, you do realize that We Will Rise is about girls and women in Africa @Sooner. And it also applies around the world where women are not valued. Women who are empowered change the world. "The hand who rocks the cradle" and if "you want a job done ask a woman."

To get to equality, veiled views like yours ... well, it's just obvious where you stand.

My point is ALL people should be valued. PEOPLE who are empowered change the world. If you have the attitude that women are more talented, do more, etc. than men, you are simply replacing one prejudice with another. That's not how we will get there. I believe this to the depths of my hard that EVERY person should be valued for WHO THEY ARE. And your views are yes VERY obviously different than mine. There is nothing "veiled" about what I'm saying.

I worked very hard for the ERA, and was one of the most concerned supporters of feminism in the 60s and 70s, and I came to not like how I saw women who wanted to just do the same thing to men. I don't feel that way. I see people as people, and I parted ways with that line of thinking. Nor will I apologize to anyone for feeling that all people equally deserve a chance. But to uplift any group above another I simply do not agree with. ALL people deserve to be taken for who they are.

Lila Belle · ‎01-24-2013

@Sooner wrote:
@Lila Belle wrote:
@Sooner wrote:
@suzyQ3 wrote:
@Lila Belle wrote:
@Sooner wrote:
@Lila Belle wrote:
Oh, my. I hope that you are watching this on CNN. I really hope they repeat this. It's about girls and education in Africa and of course throughout the world.

As women we need to be reminded of of our strength and power to invoke change.
I think the most impowering thing that women can do is stop thinking "as women" but as people who have power and strength. I think the sooner we get over our differences of gender, race, or nationality as see one another as individuals and not divisive groups, change will come fast for the world.

We all have power to invoke change--in ourselves.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Not every nation respects and empowers girls and women. Imagine being held down because of your gender. Our country did it by denying opportunities for women in educational endeavors and employment and the right to be an equal citizen.The voe that is.

To not support and empower our sisters, no matter where we live in this world, is a form of discrimonation, bigotry and backwardness that will impact on our daughters and our sons.
@Lila Belle, I think something got messed up here. That is not a quote from @Sooner but rather from @Maudelyn.
I don't think anyone should be held back because of their gender; nor do I think they should be promoted because of their gender. I think people should be taken and valued for the individuals they are. I don't think we will ever get to equality if we look a the world because of gender, race, nationality, etc. I'd change it to "support and empower our brothers and sisters. . . "
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Uh, you do realize that We Will Rise is about girls and women in Africa @Sooner. And it also applies around the world where women are not valued. Women who are empowered change the world. "The hand who rocks the cradle" and if "you want a job done ask a woman."

To get to equality, veiled views like yours ... well, it's just obvious where you stand.
My point is ALL people should be valued. PEOPLE who are empowered change the world. If you have the attitude that women are more talented, do more, etc. than men, you are simply replacing one prejudice with another. That's not how we will get there. I believe this to the depths of my hard that EVERY person should be valued for WHO THEY ARE. And your views are yes VERY obviously different than mine. There is nothing "veiled" about what I'm saying.

I worked very hard for the ERA, and was one of the most concerned supporters of feminism in the 60s and 70s, and I came to not like how I saw women who wanted to just do the same thing to men. I don't feel that way. I see people as people, and I parted ways with that line of thinking. Nor will I apologize to anyone for feeling that all people equally deserve a chance. But to uplift any group above another I simply do not agree with. ALL people deserve to be taken for who they are.

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Women of color is the issue. When women are empowered men are also empowered to revere their daughters and wives. When women succeed so do their families. Men are always valued. Men are not denied education, mutilated or murdered as are women.

For a woman to deny other women their due is unbelievable. JMO

libbyannE · ‎10-27-2010

@Lila Belle wrote:
Oh, my. I hope that you are watching this on CNN. I really hope they repeat this. It's about girls and education in Africa and of course throughout the world.

As women we need to be reminded of of our strength and power to invoke change.

They have run it several times. So good. I will miss our First Lady but I look forward to seeing if she continues with that type of work on behalf of young girls.