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Re: can't read or write cursive


@LTT1 wrote:

https://youtu.be/Qhm7-LEBznk

 

this hilarious video deals with a guy and a girl (his wife) 

the guy is trying to help Chelsea understand how long it would take you to go 80 miles if you are driving 80 miles per hour.

 

Oh just smh🤦🏼‍♀️


I hate to think how many people can't answer that question!!!!

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Re: can't read or write cursive


@Carmie wrote:

@jonbon wrote:

@LTT1 wrote:

@Nonametoday

 

Here in Texas, the students have many courses (required) in history starting with US History in junior high and W GEO (f); W HISTORY (s); US HISTORY (j) then GOVT (sr).

They are tested with a yearly state assessment on every one of these courses.


Yes -- high school graduation requirements for both of my kids have included four years of social studies (including geography, US history, world history, government, and economics), as well as four years of English, (at least) three years of math, (at least) three years of science, and three years of PE. There are also requirements for other areas, including technology and visual/performing arts. I don't even know of any districts around here that don't have similar requirements.


Why so late?  I had history beginning in the third grade all the way through HS.  I remember that my own children also had history in elementary school.  

 

I had geography too.  Unfortunately American adults as well as children are so very far behind in these two subjects compared to Asian and European countries.

 

Social studies is a little bit of this and a little bit of that and a whole lot of nothing. It just touches the surface of many subjects and nothing is taught in great depth.


As a retired Social Studies teacher I must take exception to your generalization here,@Carmie.

 

Can you recite the Preamble to the Constitution AND (more importantly) explain what it means then and now, to Americans?

 

My kiddos could, did, and were required to. That is 8th grade. I also taught 6th and 7th grade SS.

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Re: can't read or write cursive

Schools would only have to spend nine-months (2nd grade) teaching this.  Isn't it a crime that children one day will never be able to read something like The Declaration of Independence.   Oh wait, no problem .... they can use their IPADs to do a translation for them~!

 

Image for Declaration of Independence Replica from Littleton Coin Company

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Re: can't read or write cursive


@seaBreeze wrote:

Schools would only have to spend nine-months (2nd grade) teaching this.  Isn't it a crime that children one day will never be able to read something like The Declaration of Independence.   Oh wait, no problem .... they can use their IPADs to do a translation for them~!

 

Image for Declaration of Independence Replica from Littleton Coin Company


It's already transalated all over the internet and in school books. Has been that way for several years (probably more than a century where school books are concerned). I've actually never read the cursive version. Don't think I'm any less informed because of it.

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@Love to Run wrote:

I'm far more concerned with our children's inability to think critically than their inability to write in cursive or read analog clocks. While we may have a certain affinity for them, these skills are decidedly unnecessary in today's workforce. These kids do, however, posses skills that are very necessary, and which far too many adults lack, like the ability to set a digital clock, set up a television and/or cable box, program a cellphone, download software, and on and on...

 


Cursive actually helps make vital connections in the brain.  We also know now that those who read actual books and take written notes have better comprehension and retention. There's a reason why tech people keep their kids off tablets for the first two years or so, but no one is really paying attention to the whys.  

 

Then there's the radiation from all these gadgets, the eye-damaging rays, 5G nightmares  and carpel tunnel hitting teens.  

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Re: can't read or write cursive


@Blahblahvampemer wrote:

@Love to Run wrote:

I'm far more concerned with our children's inability to think critically than their inability to write in cursive or read analog clocks. While we may have a certain affinity for them, these skills are decidedly unnecessary in today's workforce. These kids do, however, posses skills that are very necessary, and which far too many adults lack, like the ability to set a digital clock, set up a television and/or cable box, program a cellphone, download software, and on and on...

 


Cursive actually helps make vital connections in the brain.  We also know now that those who read actual books and take written notes have better comprehension and retention. There's a reason why tech people keep their kids off tablets for the first two years or so, but no one is really paying attention to the whys.  

 

Then there's the radiation from all these gadgets, the eye-damaging rays, 5G nightmares  and carpel tunnel hitting teens.  


@Blahblahvampemer

 

This is a true statement.  I agree big time!

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This issue drives me crazy too. I have 3 granddaughters,; 20, 18, and 14. The oldest knows (learned) cursive (and btw wrote on index cards the entire time in school to memorize for tests and was an honor student), the 18 yr old had cursive for like 2 weeks in 1st grade and forgot it. 14 yr old never had cursive To add; The 2 youngest did/do all school work on computers  ONLY (ridiculous) SO I taught the 18 yr old and the 14 yr old how to sign their names and all about cursive when they were younger, (when I used to babysit them regualrly).

 

Now some will say oh the future is, fingerprints for IDs or something, that we will no longer be signing documents. Well its not the future yet and they have to sign drivers licenses, at the bank to get an account, the list goes on of what you still sign to this day.

 

Conclusion; IMO cursive should still be taught forever! 

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@Shorty2U wrote:

This issue drives me crazy too. I have 3 granddaughters,; 20, 18, and 14. The oldest knows (learned) cursive (and btw wrote on index cards the entire time in school to memorize for tests and was an honor student), the 18 yr old had cursive for like 2 weeks in 1st grade and forgot it. 14 yr old never had cursive To add; The 2 youngest did/do all school work on computers  ONLY (ridiculous) SO I taught the 18 yr old and the 14 yr old how to sign their names and all about cursive when they were younger, (when I used to babysit them regualrly).

 

Now some will say oh the future is, fingerprints for IDs or something, that we will no longer be signing documents. Well its not the future yet and they have to sign drivers licenses, at the bank to get an account, the list goes on of what you still sign to this day.

 

Conclusion; IMO cursive should still be taught forever! 


It's amazing that we're tossing away an actual identifier in an age of identity theft.  It's not just how your signature looks, it's the pressure you use, where you pause....all the wonderful things that can be presented in court to prove you did or didn't sign something.  

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Re: can't read or write cursive

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@Blahblahvampemer wrote:

@Shorty2U wrote:

This issue drives me crazy too. I have 3 granddaughters,; 20, 18, and 14. The oldest knows (learned) cursive (and btw wrote on index cards the entire time in school to memorize for tests and was an honor student), the 18 yr old had cursive for like 2 weeks in 1st grade and forgot it. 14 yr old never had cursive To add; The 2 youngest did/do all school work on computers  ONLY (ridiculous) SO I taught the 18 yr old and the 14 yr old how to sign their names and all about cursive when they were younger, (when I used to babysit them regualrly).

 

Now some will say oh the future is, fingerprints for IDs or something, that we will no longer be signing documents. Well its not the future yet and they have to sign drivers licenses, at the bank to get an account, the list goes on of what you still sign to this day.

 

Conclusion; IMO cursive should still be taught forever! 


It's amazing that we're tossing away an actual identifier in an age of identity theft.  It's not just how your signature looks, it's the pressure you use, where you pause....all the wonderful things that can be presented in court to prove you did or didn't sign something.  


Your signature is your signature whether it's printed, written in cursive, or a combination.

 

A lot of documents can be signed electronically now.  There are unique identifiers to those electronic signatures

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Re: can't read or write cursive

I taught for over 30 years... public school... just about everything in the book except math.  One of the last years I was there I was teaching Language Arts.  I was at a meeting.  A directive.... came down and we were to hear the rules.  

 

1.  No cursive

2.  No grammar

3.  No spelling

 

And when we questioned it..  Answer  TEACH THEM TO THINK INSTEAD

 

You cannot make this up.