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Re: can't read or write cursive


@sidsmom wrote:


@GingerPeach wrote:

How interesting that so many seem to bring up the fact that it is OK because it doesn't "bother" them and that it's OK because it's a "sign of the times."

 

How is forgetting a useful skill good?

 

Too many forget the very important connection between hand and memory.  Memory doesn't connect nearly as well with tapping on key pads as it does with writing in cursive. 


Ok. Let’s discuss.

How is cursive a useful skill?

Is there proof that non-cursive people have less memory?


Not the point at all.

 

It has been shown that taking notes by writing in your own hand increases retention more than by taking notes by typing into an electronic device.

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Re: can't read or write cursive

When National Standards were mandated cursive was no longer required.  You can google National Standards with the grade level and it will tell you what the curriculum should be at that grade level and what is expected of your child at that level.  There are also State Standards that can go above and beyond the National Standards.  Many parents are not aware of what is expected of their child throughout the school year,  It is really easy to find out online.  This is why many students are no longer being taught cursive in school.

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Re: can't read or write cursive

 


@grandma r wrote:

A very sad situation in our school system. Very few schools even teach cursive.  Even fewer teach children how to tell time!  In fact, many school districts teach these ridiculous new math techniques!!!  No times tables, no carrying or borrowing;  ridiculous!!!  Basics aren't taught anymore.  No wonder our students are so far behind other countries in math and science!


I taught in public school in Texas...students in grades 9-12. I was teaching “special” math.

 

Nowhere in the Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills grades k-12 are the following:

 

counting/making change

cursive

telling time on an analog clock

 

Label me mortified; I believe there are certain skills that are basic building blocks needed to enable us to learn and then build on that knowledge.

 

I was not allowed to use classroom time for teaching skills that were not on the TEKS (Texas Essential Knowledge and Skills) for that grade level.

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Re: can't read or write cursive

I had a 6th Grade teacher who in general was very strict. She had a timer for bathroom breaks of 5 min. and 15 min. Recess. She made kids copy dictionary pages for discipline.

 

 She told me "Your Handwriting Will Never Make it" After leaving her class  and in Middle School I printed and could do it as fast as writing. It has become a combination. We used to get a grade on our report cards for Penmanship in lower grades.

 

I used to think how important  something was at the time and change. My Stepdaughters could not tell time on a regular clock in the digetal age. Schools had to bring that concept back as Cursive for signatures.

 

 

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My kids were taught to write in cursive, thankfully.   I’d they weren’t, I would  have taught them myself 

 

I think it’s a big problem that kids do not know how to read cursive.   Most people write in a print/cursive combination.   I can’t imagine not being able to read something because it’s in cursive.   That could be embarrassing.  

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Re: can't read or write cursive


@GingerPeach wrote:

@sidsmom wrote:


@GingerPeach wrote:

How interesting that so many seem to bring up the fact that it is OK because it doesn't "bother" them and that it's OK because it's a "sign of the times."

 

How is forgetting a useful skill good?

 

Too many forget the very important connection between hand and memory.  Memory doesn't connect nearly as well with tapping on key pads as it does with writing in cursive. 


Ok. Let’s discuss.

How is cursive a useful skill?

Is there proof that non-cursive people have less memory?


Not the point at all.

 

It has been shown that taking notes by writing in your own hand increases retention more than by taking notes by typing into an electronic device.


I’ve seen articles referencing handwritten for retention BUT.....

this was many years ago when electronic devices were not available.

I would love to see studies/research comparing handwritten vs electronic 

for memory retention TODAY....broken down to gender & age range.

 

I would bet the generation of teens/20’s would should retention

is via electronic device since that’s all they know.  Does that mean

they have less memory than older adults? 

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@deepwaterdotter wrote:

A lady in one of my book clubs was telling us about her grandchildren.  They attend an elementary school affiliated with their Lutheran church, but not "in a college town" .  She was also unhappy that they are not taught to read or write cursive.   Guess it's a common practice in all schools. 


The Catholic Schools teach itSmiley Happy  The kids actually really like practicing it-it's kind of like yoga-very calming. As long as you just encourage them to try and do their best, but not stress perfect, they enjoy it. I've seen it very first-hand for 35 years!

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Just like if we tried to read hieroglyphics off a cave wall. I consider it important to be able to read and write cursive.

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@sidsmom

 @GingerPeach

One of our Assistant Pricipals stressed that she had information regarding that and the information stressed that students learn more and more deeply by writing rather than typing.

 

That was enough for me to have the students start making notes during announcements. They only needed one word because actually i was put out with them not listening and then asking “When are school pictures?” and “How much money did they say to bring?” lol

 

Personally, if kids are not able to take notes and learn from them, I wouldn’t know how to tell them to study or learn.  My own system of learning (in depth) requires me to write it down.  If I don’t SEE it I can’t LEARN it!

 

ok...off my soapbox now!

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Re: can't read or write cursive

I am left handed and learned by turning the paper the opposite direction of everyone else - thus, my cursive slants the 'right' direction.  I think of the struggles some of us must have gone through in learning cursive and the fact that technology has made many things so easy for children.  I don't know if that's such a good thing(?)