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On 1/13/2014 BlueCollarBabe said:
On 1/13/2014 ------ said:
On 1/13/2014 SydneyH said:
On 1/13/2014 sidsmom said:

Ronan nutty...yep. Oh, he's an intelligent, accomplished young man...book smart, BUT....not too street smart. Airing your family business on Twitter (Father's Day & Golden Globe) is not the smartest move. Social Media has brought down too many to name.

There's no question about his accomplishments, however the tweet attributed to him was ill-advised to say the least.

It won't hurt him. Most young people have no idea who Woody Allen is.

Uh, they do if they're into films at all which many are. My youngest and his friends love WA. As for Ronan, he's 26 and that's about all you can say. Keeping this war of words going against his father (?) seems to be something he and his mother and sibs are obsessed with. Woody probably is flattered by the attention.

I know of very few who know who Woody Allen is. All I hear back from kids are Woody jokes. Wink

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On 1/13/2014 sunala said:

I would imagine a DNA test was done on Ronan, but I doubt we'll ever know the results.

Mia comes off so sweet that butter could melt in her mouth, but I think she's bat-s**t crazy.

What was her reason coming forth with the story that Ronan could be the son of Frank Sinatra at this time? What did she accomplish? Publicity?

I love Woody's movies and I'll continue to watch them as they come out. I'm not sure why I'm not hating on him like just about everyone else, but I don't believe most of what I hear.

It's all speculation.

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On 1/13/2014 Linders Back said:
On 1/13/2014 adelle38 said:
On 1/13/2014 MamaWick said:
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On 1/13/2014 MamaWick said:

Apologies, Adelle, but I don't understand your response. But again, I state there is enough blame for both Mia, Woody and even Soon-Yi.

How is Mia to blame for what happened to Soon-Yi or allegedly to Dylan?

There is no evidence Mia knew, in fact, not even speculations that I've seen. Plenty of children are molested and their parents did not know.

The blame I assign to Mia concerns her admitted affair with Sinatra and that HE could possibly be Ronan's father. The blame I assign to Woody is that he should not have begun a relationship with Soon-Yi. The blame I assign to Soon-Yi is that, even though she was young, she should have known better.

It doesn't matter to me that Mia and Woody were never married. They cheated on each other and shame on both of them.

Cheating is hardly the same as incest. I don't see them as "equal".

Where did incest suddenly come from? As crazy as all these people are/were, there was never any INCEST. None of these people are even related to each other except Ronan and Mia (and maybe Ronan and Woody????) and I haven't read anything about them doing anything untoward.

Having relations with a stepdaughter is considered incest.

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On 1/13/2014 ------ said:

I can't imagine the turmoil and pain the relationship between Soon-Yi and Allen caused the other children. The two never thought about how their s3xual encounters would impact Dylan, Moses and Ronan. Most of the blame falls on Allen's shoulders but both acted selfishly.

Allen and Farrow were not married and did not live together yet they adopted children together as well as had one biological child together. Allen may not have legally adopted Soon-Yi but she was certainly an active part of the Allen-Farrow household as well as the legal sibling to the three Allen-Farrow children.

So tell me, how could Soon-Yi have not seen Allen as a father figure?

Was Soon-Yi isolated from her brothers and sister? Did she stay at home alone at her mother's while the rest of the family went out with their parents, Allen and Farrow? Did Allen have no contact with Soon-Yi while the rest of her siblings did? Did she not call Allen "Dad" while her brothers and sister did?

What children did they adopt together??? I was under the impression the brood she adopted were done with Andre Previn. The only child they had together was Ronan, and now she's claiming that isn't the case.

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On 1/13/2014 sunala said:

I would imagine a DNA test was done on Ronan, but I doubt we'll ever know the results.

Mia comes off so sweet that butter could melt in her mouth, but I think she's bat-s**t crazy.

What was her reason coming forth with the story that Ronan could be the son of Frank Sinatra at this time? What did she accomplish? Publicity?

I love Woody's movies and I'll continue to watch them as they come out. I'm not sure why I'm not hating on him like just about everyone else, but I don't believe most of what I hear.

It's all speculation.

It's odd to me that when Soon-Yi speaks no one listens. I'll post it again to those who want to continue to crucify Woody.

http://www.ontheredcarpet.com/Woody-Allen-on-marriage-to-Soon-Yi:--What-was-the-scandal-/8209443

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On 1/13/2014 RainCityGirl said:
On 1/13/2014 ------ said:

I can't imagine the turmoil and pain the relationship between Soon-Yi and Allen caused the other children. The two never thought about how their s3xual encounters would impact Dylan, Moses and Ronan. Most of the blame falls on Allen's shoulders but both acted selfishly.

Allen and Farrow were not married and did not live together yet they adopted children together as well as had one biological child together. Allen may not have legally adopted Soon-Yi but she was certainly an active part of the Allen-Farrow household as well as the legal sibling to the three Allen-Farrow children.

So tell me, how could Soon-Yi have not seen Allen as a father figure?

Was Soon-Yi isolated from her brothers and sister? Did she stay at home alone at her mother's while the rest of the family went out with their parents, Allen and Farrow? Did Allen have no contact with Soon-Yi while the rest of her siblings did? Did she not call Allen "Dad" while her brothers and sister did?

What children did they adopt together??? I was under the impression the brood she adopted were done with Andre Previn. The only child they had together was Ronan, and now she's claiming that isn't the case.

NO. They adopted two children together.

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On 1/13/2014 adelle38 said:

Having relations with a stepdaughter is considered incest.


Incest is historically about relations between those who are closely related by blood.

Allen was not her step-father since he and Mia weren't married, but imo he was morally wrong.

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On 1/13/2014 adelle38 said:

Having relations with a stepdaughter is considered incest.


Incest is historically about relations between those who are closely related by blood.

Allen was not her step-father since he and Mia weren't married, but imo he was morally wrong.

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On 1/13/2014 adelle38 said:

Having relations with a stepdaughter is considered incest.


Incest is historically about relations between those who are closely related by blood.

Allen was not her step-father since he and Mia weren't married, but imo he was morally wrong.

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On 1/13/2014 adelle38 said:
On 1/13/2014 Linders Back said:
On 1/13/2014 adelle38 said:
On 1/13/2014 MamaWick said:
On 1/13/2014 NoelSeven said:
On 1/13/2014 MamaWick said:

Apologies, Adelle, but I don't understand your response. But again, I state there is enough blame for both Mia, Woody and even Soon-Yi.

How is Mia to blame for what happened to Soon-Yi or allegedly to Dylan?

There is no evidence Mia knew, in fact, not even speculations that I've seen. Plenty of children are molested and their parents did not know.

The blame I assign to Mia concerns her admitted affair with Sinatra and that HE could possibly be Ronan's father. The blame I assign to Woody is that he should not have begun a relationship with Soon-Yi. The blame I assign to Soon-Yi is that, even though she was young, she should have known better.

It doesn't matter to me that Mia and Woody were never married. They cheated on each other and shame on both of them.

Cheating is hardly the same as incest. I don't see them as "equal".

Where did incest suddenly come from? As crazy as all these people are/were, there was never any INCEST. None of these people are even related to each other except Ronan and Mia (and maybe Ronan and Woody????) and I haven't read anything about them doing anything untoward.

Having relations with a stepdaughter is considered incest.

She wasn't his stepdaughter, AND she was 20, way past the age of consent. How can she be a stepdaughter when they never married, he never raised her, and didn't even live in the same place as he.