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01-30-2026 06:06 PM
@Etoile308 wrote:Not all areas, not all topographys are conducive to underground utility lines. In some areas it's just not physically feasible.
In areas where it may be feasible I suspect the cost of a changer over from above ground to underground would be staggering and of course passed on the consumers.
That is how it is here in a lot of parts of Colorado.
01-30-2026 06:15 PM
@SilleeMee wrote:
@KittySoftPaws wrote:@SilleeMee I get it, sometimes it's necessary. I sure didn't mean to imply you are, or did, something wrong, so if I did, I do apologize. My gripe is the constant influx of people and their renovations, that put a strain on an area that is already overflowing which causes everthing to suffer. This place has just become to full.
No worries. I totally understand b/c I live in a booming city, Colorado Springs. Not too far from my neighborhood there is a new 10,000-home development going in soon and that's just the house count. It doesn't include the schools, shops and everything else that a 'small city' has. I really do not like the direction this city has taken. I've lived here for over 50 years and the progress is unbearable and, to an extent, out-of-control displeasing. Everyone seems to be a newcomer and not from around here yet they act like they own the place already.
That is horrific 10,000 homes and as you say the additional things needed to keep everybody happy.
Oh joy that means the traffic will be even worse and it already feels it's at the breaking point with the maniac drivers. What part of the Springs?
When we moved here almost 30 years ago we had a new build in Highlands Ranch. Couldn't stand it, huge subdivision now at over 100,000+ population. Moved 2 years later.
Highlands Ranch is a planned community developed by Mission Viejo known for adding lots of population to an area. They've since sold to Shea Homes which is OK, quality builders.
01-30-2026 06:19 PM
@KittySoftPaws wrote:@SilleeMee I've never been to Colorado but have always wanted to go. I love the mountains. I bet your area is beautiful, and I do miss the change of seasons.
So yes, this area is much the same as you describe. We just had someone buy a huge home behind us and the landscaping and "fixing" is non-stop. He pulled all of the palm trees along his side of our fence divider. He did replace them at least, but still. I thought ok, once that's done we can get a breather. Nope. Now we have a huge Marriott being built behind us.
When I say the construction never stops, it hasn't stopped around us yet in over 2+ years.
You come visit us! Beautiful scenery and for the most part great weather.
Took this pic running errands yesterday in town.
01-30-2026 06:26 PM
@rockygems123 wrote:
@SilleeMee wrote:
@KittySoftPaws wrote:@SilleeMee I get it, sometimes it's necessary. I sure didn't mean to imply you are, or did, something wrong, so if I did, I do apologize. My gripe is the constant influx of people and their renovations, that put a strain on an area that is already overflowing which causes everthing to suffer. This place has just become to full.
No worries. I totally understand b/c I live in a booming city, Colorado Springs. Not too far from my neighborhood there is a new 10,000-home development going in soon and that's just the house count. It doesn't include the schools, shops and everything else that a 'small city' has. I really do not like the direction this city has taken. I've lived here for over 50 years and the progress is unbearable and, to an extent, out-of-control displeasing. Everyone seems to be a newcomer and not from around here yet they act like they own the place already.
That is horrific 10,000 homes and as you say the additional things needed to keep everybody happy.
Oh joy that means the traffic will be even worse and it already feels it's at the breaking point with the maniac drivers. What part of the Springs?
When we moved here almost 30 years ago we had a new build in Highlands Ranch. Couldn't stand it, huge subdivision now at over 100,000+ population. Moved 2 years later.
Highlands Ranch is a planned community developed by Mission Viejo known for adding lots of population to an area. They've since sold to Shea Homes which is OK, quality builders.
I'm right in the middle of city. When new subdivisions are built that just creates traffic congestion on the roads b/c there isn't enough roads going in and out of the new areas being developed. The one main road near me is already overloaded and now the city wants to widen it...ugh!
01-30-2026 06:48 PM - edited 01-30-2026 06:50 PM
PHOENIX now has 2 "seasons"... Tourist season, and CONSTRUCTION season, and they've started to overlap. di
01-30-2026 07:26 PM
@Bookplate wrote:A minor point, and off topic, but "They paved paradise to put up a parking lot" was originally written and sung by Joni Mitchell and entitled Big Yellow Taxi.

01-30-2026 07:37 PM
@Kachina624 wrote:@KittySoftPaws. S8nce it can take years just to just settle FEMA and insurance claims after a disaster, people often don't have funds to make extensive repairs until years later. You may be just starting with the inconvenience.
And after that's all done...your insurance, HOA fees, and tax all skyrocket. di
01-30-2026 07:50 PM - edited 01-30-2026 07:54 PM
@KittySoftPaws wildlife protection and laws regarding trees are one of the things I love about CA. Laws regarding certain trees is usually governed by the cities though The state of California governs a couple species of trees. This is because Developers have no issue with knocking down 150 yr old Oak trees, or bulldozing acreage flat.. If they can fit one more condo on land..... It's, whoops, "we didn't know that was an Oak", or whoops..."the bill dozer hit it". But, even with laws it happens. Palm trees are fairly fast growers, but they can provide shade, beauty and help the air quality. It's sad indeed. There are areas in densely populated areas where they have knocked down everything to put up apts, (acres and acres) . They build high and far, then cement everything around it. It is proven, the air is worse, it gets hotter, no escape from hot summer days, and it uses more energy trying to heat or cool. In our city, down the street they split the road to save ancient Golden Oak tree!! It's beautiful, and we all love it.
all you can do is lobby City Hall, and change things for the future. We did, when developers took out 2 Golden Oaks, and. Eucalyptus tree that was so old, (but healthy) that had a couple Red tail Hawks nest in it every year. They returned to nest following season, and were seen circling the sky over where the tree was. We took developers to city. New laws were drawn, they were denied a future contract, and shortly after had to leave town,press was so bad. They did it on purpose, but most follow the law. Palm trees in some areas can be protected, but mostly, if it is city property, or a land owner can do what they want within the law.
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01-30-2026 08:22 PM - edited 01-31-2026 03:25 PM
@Kachina624 wrote:@KittySoftPaws. S8nce it can take years just to just settle FEMA and insurance claims after a disaster, people often don't have funds to make extensive repairs until years later. You may be just starting with the inconvenience.
@Kachina624 yes , it can take years. By the time you deal with insurance, get a contractor, get it built...it is years! Also, insurance doesn't always pay what it's worth. We need to update our insurance this year. Another thing, I don't think FEMA has the man power or money it once had anymore. Too many disasters.
01-30-2026 09:46 PM
@shoekitty Wow, what you did was inspirational. I was just talking this evening to a friend back home in Delware and we were talking about this issue. She said the rapid growth is happening where she is too, and many many farms are being sold for more building. So sad. It's all about the mighty dollar.
But she mentioned that a Wawa was being built near an over 100 year old Oak tree and the city wanted it built around it but they went against the city and removed this beautiful tree anyway. Apparantly it was quite a problem but at that point what can you do but maybe fine them?There are just some that only value money and nothing else means anything to them.
But you are so right, we must speak up about these things. Isn't CA where they built that bridge for wildlife to cross over a major highway? That is how things need to be done.
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