Re: What is proper fence etiquette?

italia8140 · ‎04-27-2015

@IamMrsG wrote:
@italia8140 wrote:
@IamMrsG wrote:
If I get banned for life for what I am about to type, so be it.

This thread is a prime example of what I despise most about the QVC community -- and I sincerely hope not the the general middle-class American populace.

We have reduced ourselves to such low standards that one cannot simply inquire about installing a fence without being subjected to rudeness and insults. I would say, "and you know who you are," but I sincerely believe your ignorance would prevent you from recognizing yourself.

The shame of it must be shared by all of us.

How RUDE.
Really? Have you read the preceding comments? If so, report mine is as being inappropriate. Regardless, I stand by my belief.

AND I STAND BY MINE.

feline groovy · ‎07-29-2014

Our backyard had gray wood fencing similar to this

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and my parents just let it be, as I can recall.

Although a clear sealant might have been applied.

I know you don't care for the weathered look but ours aged well, like driftwood does.

kdgn · ‎03-09-2010

I haven't read all of the replies (I got sidetracked with the barking dog issue, something you did not ask advice about!) but if you place a wooden fence just inside your property line you won't be able to apply a sealant on the neighbor's side without being on their property. Same goes for any weeding that might need to be done on the small amount of land that is considered yours.

We are surrounded by block walls in my neighborhood so that problem is solved for us. Friends in another area put up a privacy fence well inside their property line-the side posts were by the walls of the home. It was what was called a "true" privacy fence that blocked off only part of their backyard from sight-the patio area. The rest of the yard was open for all to see. They didn't have a dog so that might not give your dog enough room for excercise.

As for barking: I have two who will bark if they see a leaf blowing down the street; the neighbor across the street getting into or out of the car. I'm always outside with them so I can quiet them down but stop the barking entirely? Not going to happen. They are considered alert dogs, it's part of their breed and I wouldn't have it any other way.

151949 · ‎03-09-2010

@brii wrote:
Perhaps the fence is a safety measure for her dog. It keeps the dog in the yard and other animals out.

Dogs bark. It's what they do.

Properly trained ones don't and most communities have ordinances against leaving barking dogs outside.

onewhiteSparrow · ‎08-05-2011

(((((((((@wismiss,)))))))) Hugs, hugs.... relax this is about a fence and a barking dog. It is that simple.

In all forums and in any social meeting with good friends every one talks about this and that...like we are doing now. Oh sure everyone knows we are mainly talking about a fence and a barking dog....but some kid around and have fun...we can do that any where it is proper....even kidding about a junk yard dog in a crazy neighborhood....we all know we are NOT taking about your special sweet dog in your lovely neighborhood.... look around and notice all the nice people that came to talk with you and others and enjoying their self. See what fun and nice things you gave to a forum of ladies? That is the main thing. You started a topic and we got to join in and have fun. As for that "other female" (not to name her) she's a writer and loves to write. You never know where her mind wonders...best to ride along with the fun. Life is nothing but a dream. Enjoy.

surfk · ‎07-12-2010

@Buck-i-Nana wrote:
I haven't just addressed you on this issue @surfk. I have addressed the issue of some wanting to focus on trashing the OP and her dog, regardless of how often others have tried to refocus on the fence.

You quoted several my posts in full within several of your replies which were then replies to those (my) posts. You do know you did that, right?

I think, in fact, that's how "we" got into it to begin with.

surfk · ‎07-12-2010

@Buck-i-Nana wrote:
@surfk wrote:
@IamMrsG wrote:
The OP is cognizant of a having a barking dog. Her intention is to control the barking by installing a fence to block the dog's view of perceived intruders.

What is too hard for some of you to understand about this?
Because the OP obviously isn't much of a dog expert. She doesn't know for certain that the dog is barking because it can see things. That's but one (weak) theory. She can slap up the fence only to discover then that her barker of a dog continues to bark at everything it HEARS.

I mean, does anyone LIVE with well-trained dogs or with dogs of a good temperament? Or is everyone's dogs just off the chain when it comes to so much barker as to prompt a futile erection of a $1500 fence to try to stop it?

One can tell who has the barkers here. The tolerance for it is one indictator of the problem.

One can stop it with some proper training. Spend some time and money on the dog and you won't need to place blinders on his eyes to get it to shut up.
She came here to ask about a fence. Perhaps she'll seek advice on how to train the dog in the pet forum, or talk to her Vet, or many other possibilities.

I think it's easier to put up with a few barks from the four-legged members of my neighborhood than it is to put up with the barking, snarling and biting of some two-legged members of this community.

I completely disagree with that summation. The OP did not just come to find out if fencing struts should face inward or outward. That was only one aspect of the original posting.

In fact, there was far more information given about her barker of a dog and the reasons for wanting a fence than there was much of anything about a fence (other than her hope it will quiet her barker of a dog).

The barking dog seems to be at the very HEART of her original post and at the core of why she wants to slap up a fence.

In fact, its simple to find out which way struts will face. If she's having a professional install it, they ought to be able to tell her. One trip to review one's city ordinance online can answer the question. An inquiry to one's HOA can give the answer in a flash.

And if she's in a locale without any rules or ordinances or anything, then the issue is moot. She can install it any way she wishes. Or she can simply look at neighboring houses and SEE how its done.

Instead the main objective of the fence as described by the OP was to try something to shut her barker of a dog up.

One cannot escape that fact as it is the engine driving the rest of the fencing machine.

How come everyone at the Q acts like they HATE each other when they're just disagreeing - even strongly - with one another? I mean, one has to separate oneself a bit from a honest conversation about something vs making it a personal b-slap.

september · ‎03-09-2010

@chrystaltree wrote:
I'm chuckling at the idea that a fence will make any difference when It comes to all that barking from your dog. I feel sorry for those neighbors. I think if you want to be a good neighbor, you should discuss the fence with the neighbors first. It's on your property, you don't need their permission but it would be nice to bring them in on the plan and discuss the type, height and your chronic barker.

Fences do not block out the sound of dogs barking. I have them between my property and the neighbors on either side of me. I hear their dogs barking, all the time!

Sweetbay magnolia · ‎04-14-2013

I think the best thing to do is to assess what is "reasonable and customary" for your area. I have dogs, and neighbors who do as well, and we all have fences (we all own at least half acre lots).

If you hire a good fencing contractor they can help you decide, too. Where I live, "technically" we were supposed to get zoning approval but we didn't (and my contractor, who came highly recommended said it wasn't necessary) - we were putting in the same style fence as others - we attempted to set posts "near but not on" the line and set posts (no connection) next to existing fences. Paying for a county permit seemed silly. We have no HOA. I did talk to a neighbor to whom it seemed might have issues, and they did not. Worse things have happened than having to move a fence, I guess. Better to be friends and not worry about it. I've never seen the logic in running concurrent fences.

Good luck! Buying a home is a joy and a pain.

Cogito ergo sum

surfk · ‎07-12-2010

@september wrote:
@chrystaltree wrote:
I'm chuckling at the idea that a fence will make any difference when It comes to all that barking from your dog. I feel sorry for those neighbors. I think if you want to be a good neighbor, you should discuss the fence with the neighbors first. It's on your property, you don't need their permission but it would be nice to bring them in on the plan and discuss the type, height and your chronic barker.
Fences do not block out the sound of dogs barking. I have them between my property and the neighbors on either side of me. I hear their dogs barking, all the time!

Precisely. Wooden residential fencing does essentially nothing for noise. They aren't designed for that and no professional fencer would ever promise that result.

They are strictly intended for veiling or privacy.

They're not cures for screaming kids, loud air conditioning units, law mowers, yelling neighbors, loud radios or barking dogs.

And as dogs have the most sensitive of hearing, most will probably still bark or respond to "something" even on the opposite side of such a fence. Dogs utilize more than one sense, you know. And one can't be positive that only one sense - vision - triggers their barking.

Barkers are heard 'round the world...and most of them are behind fences.

As for the specifications regarding fencing installation, let's face it, everybody here lives in a different locale with different rules, different standards, different guidelines, different governing bodies, different requirements (including NONE in some places). So there can't be a real solid answer to the OP's inquiry regarding the actual fencing in her particular situation.

But people everywhere sure understand a dog that's a BARKER.