@Buck-i-Nana wrote:
@surfk wrote:
@Buck-i-Nana wrote:
@surfk wrote:
@wismiss wrote:
I am sorry I ever posted my question about fence etiquette. My dog is NOT a junk yard dog. In addition, my presence in the neighborhood doesn't make it a neighborhood to stay out of. How rude. I can't believe how this post when from a very nice, helpful thread to where the bullies of the board took over. I won't name names,, but just read and it will be evident where the atmosphere changed and the bullies, immature, rude people took over.
Before you start to spin...out of control. Nobody called YOUR dog a junkyard dog.
Re=read this thread and show anyone where anyone called YOUR dog a junkyard dog.
The loose use of terms like bullying are so exaggerative especially when its neither bullying to discuss the behaviors of dogs NOR was any particular dog called any names (including junkyard dog).
Usually I don't say much when reactions are over-kill. But save the exaggeration for genuine bullying and for things that people ACTUALLY say.
The only thing directed at YOUR dog is that a fence probably won't work in cutting down on its being a BARKER and that perhap other methods would work better (than a fence) to combat that problem.
Actually, YOU are the only person who insulted your own dog by calling it a BARKER. That was, ironically enough, the toughest word used in direct connection to YOUR dog throughout this entire thread.
And it came from YOU.
Oh come on. You saw an opportunity for more "creative writing" and went on a tangent at the OPs expense.
"Barker" is hardly an insult - dogs bark. Obviously, she's an owner who pays attention to her dog. If you really read what she posted, she just moved to a more populated area. Previously, the dog wasn't exposed to all this stimulus and it will take time for it to adjust. Personally, I find a privacy fence to be an absolute necessity when you have dogs, especially in an urban or suburban area, for the dogs safety.
You must have barkers. Barker is an insult when talking about dogs.
There is a difference between a dog that barks or has the ability to bark.
And one who barks so much as to garner a reputation as being a barker.
We ALL know what a barker of a dog is. So don't try to pretend all dogs bark like maniacs around the clock. They aren't all barkers. And they don't all bark all of the time or even a lot. Well trained dogs and dogs who get proper care and attention usually don't get the rep as being the neighborhood barker.
Anyone in any neighborhood can usually POINT to that one house where THE BARKER lives. And trust me, they don't usually have much good to say about its owners either.
That's the difference between a barker and a dog who can bark.
Did that reeeeally need explaining? Or would prefer I write it out in verse?
Actually, no, I don't have dogs that bark incessantly, but they do bark on occasion. I have had dogs all my life and I rescue, train and re-home neglected and abused dogs, so I do know a lot about dogs. This dog is in a new situation, new stimuli, new stresses and a concerned owner. Instead of getting support from some, she gets slapped and lectured by the self-proclaimed perfect pet owners and at least one person who jumps on every opportunity to trash a dog owner who doesn't profess to have the perfect pet.
It takes time to train a dog to a new environment. The OP asked questions about a fence. She didn't say it was the only thing she was planning to do with her dog, or to join the ranks of a good neighbors in her new community.
That is only supposition on your part. The OP mentioned nothing about having a barker she plans to work with in order to get it to stop barking.
In fact she said it barks at everything that moves and a fence might cut down on that (oh, and which way should fence struts face).
No mention of plans to work with the barker or train it, etc...
And even if its a rescue, the entire neighborhood did not rescue the dog. That is a tough one when one lives in a RESIDENTIAL neighborhood. Its not up to 100 homes to endure the incessant barking of a problem dog even if it has a problem not of its own doing.
I don't believe in getting rid of such a dog. But instead, I think its important to only have a pet that one has the time and energy and interest to train. And slapping up a fence doesn't tell me anything other than the "pet owner" is out of ideas and just hopes a bit of pine will do the work she ought to be doing.
By the way: why are you arguing with me on this issue? I think its interesting that unless you have some other problem with me, that you can't see how committed I am to the proper care of dogs which one brings into one's life and one's neighborhood as a purported pet.
There should be ZERO tolerance on the part of the owner for having a barker. Its problem behavior not too unlike any other - from p-ing on the carpet to nipping kids to pushing over baby buggies.
Its NOT a normal or acceptable behavior. Its something that requires a lot of work.
NOT fencing work. But WORK with the dog.
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