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06-24-2018 04:02 PM - edited 06-24-2018 04:05 PM
That might not be the best photo of Ava, but she was drop dead gorgeous. As she aged disease and alcoholism consumed her. She died from pneumonia around 67-68, young. It is said she had mental issues. And she hung her mink coat on both sides of the door.
i think Frank and Ava were tied at the hip. i think with Ava she would philander around, come back to Frank, he wanted her back. Her attitude might have been, if I cant have you ....no one will, lol.!!! He would have another relationship,and there she was. She would break it up, then get in her "mood" and leave. She was unbalanced, and consumed with alcohol. Poor thing. she lost money, Frank helped her on the side as he moved on from this poisonous relationship. So it is said. I think there is some truth to these rumors. I remember the days they were front page news with their brawls!
I only know from the newspapers at the time, and from Franks talking about her later in life. Also friends that were close to them recounted blow by blow the relationship
sort of a Liz and ****** story.
06-24-2018 04:05 PM
I remember my Mom saying she and her sisters would swoon when they heard FS sing on the radio. When I saw him on TV in the 50's and 60's I just didn't get it. FS was an average looking man of his time, at best. AG was one beautiful woman at any time in history, but I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
06-24-2018 04:07 PM - edited 06-24-2018 04:10 PM
@shoekitty wrote:That might not be the best photo of Ava, but she was drop dead gorgeous. As she aaged disease and alcoholism consumed her. She died from pneumonia around 67-68, young. It is said she had mental issues. And she hung her mink coat on both sides of the door.
i think Frank and Ava were sewed at the hip. i think with Ava she would philander around, come back to Frank, he wanted her back. Her attitude might have been if I cant have you no one will, lol. He would have a relation and there she was. She would break it up, then get in her "mood" and leave. She was unbalanced, and consumed with alcohol. Poor thing. she lost money, Frank helped her on the side as he moved on from this poisonous relationship.
I only know from the newspapers at the time, and from Franks talking about her later in life. Also friends that were close to them recounted blow by blow the relationship
sort of a Liz and ****** story.
Frank just couldn't deal with a woman running the show. His obsession with her had more to do with not being able to control her than really being in true love with her.
He couldn't deal with Mia's determination to continue her acting career, either, and there went that marriage.
06-24-2018 04:16 PM
06-24-2018 04:17 PM
@blackhole99 wrote:I remember my Mom saying she and her sisters would swoon when they heard FS sing on the radio. When I saw him on TV in the 50's and 60's I just didn't get it. FS was an average looking man of his time, at best. AG was one beautiful woman at any time in history, but I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
hmmmm..We may have had the same mother! i know i heard that same story and thought the same thing...
06-24-2018 04:19 PM
Ava in her own words, with Ghostwriter Peter Evans...
warning... she had no filter....
Three Men and a Goddess
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2013/07/book-ava-gardner-marriages-seduction-split
06-24-2018 04:24 PM
Ava was such a sad lady. Shelly Winters had to rescue her husband from Ava's clutches, in Spain, when he filmed the naked Maja with her
She wrote about it in her book. Her husband Tony Francisco was mentally fragile, himself ,and Ava was really a man eater, according to Shelly. When Shelly rescued him, he was tottering on the verge of a breakdown. I think Ava might have been bipolar, and Tony just couldn't keep up with her
She was beautiful, and the pictures posted here ,doesn't do her justice at all.
06-24-2018 04:40 PM
Ava was a stunner; considered by many to be a true natural beauty!
06-24-2018 04:49 PM
If this is anyone's idea of an average looking woman, then sign me up to be average...
06-24-2018 05:27 PM
@songbird wrote:Yep. She was supposed be very beautiful. He carried a torch for all his life. Sad. She broke his heart. I don't see the obsession. She looks like an average women. Nothing special...
Are you joking here? The fact that you're assessing this woman based only on appearance is ridiculous .... although she was a stunning woman. Clearly, they had some amazing chemistry .... you know, personality. It's not just about looks. oi vey
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