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What do I think about your opinion of "night sticks"? As long as it is only your PD, I am fine with it.
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If the bad guys show up at my house, I want the cops to be better armed than them.

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On 3/15/2015 route 7 said:

I am so sorry; just came on here and am reading fast -- OMG what is next; a water pistol??.Who can possibly suggest only a night stick for police!!

England, maybe???????Wink

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On 3/15/2015 Love Roses said:

NOt a good idea, not eve a good thought. Someone who dreamed it up is brainless or dead.

...or liberal. Wink

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Not in this country where 90% are carrying.

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On 3/15/2015 Marienkaefer2 said:
On 3/15/2015 Slate said:
On 3/15/2015 tansy said:

My complaint, and only comment on this thread, is that the police should not be armed with military equipment.

Why is that? Military equipment is good enough to use on the enemy but not American criminals? Why not?

They keyword you used is AMERICAN. Because we are not fighting a foreign enemy. These are American.neighborhoods and American citizens. Our neighborhoods should not become militarized. There is a way to handle these issues with better policing methods which are out there and are being introduced into many communities. The answer is NOT to militarize our streets. My dad was in law enforcement for 40 years, a white Irish cop in the "projects," as was my uncle. Our family has experience with this.

My family has experience in this area as well (my father was a police officer, taught law enforcement at the college level, and wrote books on the subject), and I have two points to make.

Cops need the proper equipment, including what some consider 'military' equipment, in order to protect themselves and the public. The 'bad guys' can't have more and better equipment than those sworn to protect and serve. Our streets, in many areas are becoming a war zone. Gangs, illegals, drug cartels, and it gets worse every year. There is no way we should ask police officers to show up at a gun fight, wielding knives, so to speak.

I worry that if we do equip our police to the level of militarization, they are one step closer to being engulfed into the federal or state government's possible desires for them to become an arm of the military, and that would be dangerous.

It seems to me, the answer isn't clear, and the balance very tricky. I'm not sure which answer is really in the best interest of the public, and the police force as well.

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On 3/15/2015 sylviahomeatlast said:

If the bad guys show up at my house, I want the cops to be better armed than them.

Then we need to get armor piercing bullets OUTLAWED for civilians. ASAP.

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On 3/16/2015 terrier3 said:
On 3/15/2015 sylviahomeatlast said:

If the bad guys show up at my house, I want the cops to be better armed than them.

Then we need to get armor piercing bullets OUTLAWED for civilians. ASAP.

My only question then, is how effective, in the worst scenarios, will the civilian be, should they need to defend themselves from the 'bad guys' when they have such bullets. LE has nothing to fear from law abiding citizens, exercising their second amendments rights. And the bad guys will get anything, outlawed or not. So the LE will have them, the bad guys will have them, and the citizens will have squat. Not the way it should be.

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On 3/15/2015 Plaid Pants said:

If the criminals are going to be using AK's, then at least give our fine men and women in blue an equal chance.

If the bad guys are going to be using high powered assault weapons, then our police should have the same.

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On 3/16/2015 Ford1224 said:

Not in this country where 90% are carrying.

<h1 class="entry-title">“What Percentage of Americans Have CCW Permits”</h1>

Someone came by searching for “what percentage of people have ccw permits.”

Some states call it a “License to Carry Concealed” instead of Concealed Carry Weapon” permit, but the last Department of Justice survey plus estimates built on the “gosh we are rushed” statements of various jurisdictions would make the total between 9.5 million and 10 million total Concealed Carry licensees. In addition, another 6,250,000 American adults live in “Constitutional Carry” States and need no permit to carry. Considering both groups as “having a CCW Permit” at 16 million total, as closely as the data allows.

About 227 million Americans are over 21, meeting the age requirement to buy a handgun, so about 7 percent of American adults either have a permit to carry or need no permission to carry