What degree of immigrant am I? - Page 11

151949 · ‎03-09-2010

@Moonchilde wrote:
@lianne wrote:
I suppose my point was none of us would be here if our current climate was in force when our parents, grandparents or great grandparents came to our wonderful country we might not be here either. Think about it.

It's not true of anyone whose ancestors arrived on the North American continent before July-August 1776, because before then there was no "our wonderful country." There was no restriction on who could set out for the New World because there was no single authoritative govt. actively restricting admission to colonies or territories.

--Independence was formally declared on July 2, 1776, a date that John Adams believed would be “the most memorable epocha in the history of America.” On July 4, 1776, Congress approved the final text of the Declaration. It wasn't signed until August 2, 1776.-- (Constitution Facts)

Plenty of people have ancestors who arrived in North America and settled in colonies and wilderness areas before there was ever a nation - including Native Americans. Someof us would have been here, regardless.

Actually before there was a USA the English used the colonies here as a punishment because the prisons in England were overcrowded. So people got banned to the colonies. Many people who are proud of being DAR are actually decendants of prisoners.Same with Australia - they banned prisoners to Australia as well.

sunshine45 · ‎03-09-2010

@YorkieonmyPillow wrote:

@lianne wrote:
I suppose my point was none of us would be here if our current climate was in force when our parents, grandparents or great grandparents came to our wonderful country we might not be here either. Think about it.

Immigrants have always been welcome in the US - "the great melting pot" - as long as they come in LEGALLY.

Think about that.

at this point in time i genuinely question that sentiment.......even legally......

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Moonchilde · ‎05-23-2010

@151949 wrote:
@Moonchilde wrote:
@lianne wrote:
I suppose my point was none of us would be here if our current climate was in force when our parents, grandparents or great grandparents came to our wonderful country we might not be here either. Think about it.

It's not true of anyone whose ancestors arrived on the North American continent before July-August 1776, because before then there was no "our wonderful country." There was no restriction on who could set out for the New World because there was no single authoritative govt. actively restricting admission to colonies or territories.

--Independence was formally declared on July 2, 1776, a date that John Adams believed would be “the most memorable epocha in the history of America.” On July 4, 1776, Congress approved the final text of the Declaration. It wasn't signed until August 2, 1776.-- (Constitution Facts)

Plenty of people have ancestors who arrived in North America and settled in colonies and wilderness areas before there was ever a nation - including Native Americans. Someof us would have been here, regardless.
Actually before there was a USA the English used the colonies here as a punishment because the prisons in England were overcrowded. So people got banned to the colonies. Many people who are proud of being DAR are actually decendants of prisoners.Same with Australia - they banned prisoners to Australia as well.

I believe it occurred much more routinely in Australia,and for more violent crimes - that'sthe impression you get from reading the history of Australia. The colonies fought with Britain over this issue, as they didn't want them, but the British Govt forced the "convicts" upon them.

And let's not forget what people were convicted of - stealing a loaf of bread to eat, or a coat or shoes to wear in freezing temperatures. Selling one's body to feed their children. Those were often the "crimes" that got people transported. It wouldn't embarrass me at all if that was one of my ancestors. They probably considered themselves lucky.

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Noel7 · ‎03-09-2010

@151949 wrote:
@Moonchilde wrote:
@lianne wrote:
I suppose my point was none of us would be here if our current climate was in force when our parents, grandparents or great grandparents came to our wonderful country we might not be here either. Think about it.

It's not true of anyone whose ancestors arrived on the North American continent before July-August 1776, because before then there was no "our wonderful country." There was no restriction on who could set out for the New World because there was no single authoritative govt. actively restricting admission to colonies or territories.

--Independence was formally declared on July 2, 1776, a date that John Adams believed would be “the most memorable epocha in the history of America.” On July 4, 1776, Congress approved the final text of the Declaration. It wasn't signed until August 2, 1776.-- (Constitution Facts)

Plenty of people have ancestors who arrived in North America and settled in colonies and wilderness areas before there was ever a nation - including Native Americans. Someof us would have been here, regardless.
Actually before there was a USA the English used the colonies here as a punishment because the prisons in England were overcrowded. So people got banned to the colonies. Many people who are proud of being DAR are actually decendants of prisoners.Same with Australia - they banned prisoners to Australia as well.

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@151949

A lot of times, in those days, the prisoners did nothing more than steal food when hungry.

People can still be proud of their ancestors, it means they have proof their ancestor fought and sometimes died fighting for freedom from the King.

YorkieonmyPillow · ‎01-13-2013

@sunshine45 wrote:
@YorkieonmyPillow wrote:

@lianne wrote:
I suppose my point was none of us would be here if our current climate was in force when our parents, grandparents or great grandparents came to our wonderful country we might not be here either. Think about it.

Immigrants have always been welcome in the US - "the great melting pot" - as long as they come in LEGALLY.

Think about that.

at this point in time i genuinely question that sentiment.......even legally......

At this point in time, as far as I am aware, there is no added bans or restrictions on LEGAL immigration.

sunshine45 · ‎03-09-2010

@YorkieonmyPillow

i think you know what i mean....... if you dont, then i will not expand on my post ......

and i DO question the word "WELCOME."

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"The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing." - Albert Einstein

YorkieonmyPillow · ‎01-13-2013

@sunshine45 That's odd. I don't know of anyone who doesn't welcome legal immigrants.

Never heard of that.

Noel7 · ‎03-09-2010

There were a lot of signs like this around in the late 1800s.

Not only is information about the discrimination available online, but if you google it and click images, you will see a lot more signs and notices like this one.

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