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02-27-2017 10:10 AM - last edited on 02-27-2017 10:20 AM by Anonymous
@lianne wrote:
I suppose my point was none of us would be here if our current climate was in force when our parents, grandparents or great grandparents came to our wonderful country we might not be here either. Think about it.
Immigrants have always been welcome in the US - "the great melting pot" - as long as they come in LEGALLY.
Think about that.
02-27-2017 02:16 PM
@lianne wrote:I suppose my point was none of us would be here if our current climate was in force when our parents, grandparents or great grandparents came to our wonderful country we might not be here either. Think about it.
It's not true of anyone whose ancestors arrived on the North American continent before July-August 1776, because before then there was no "our wonderful country." There was no restriction on who could set out for the New World because there was no single authoritative govt. actively restricting admission to colonies or territories.
--Independence was formally declared on July 2, 1776, a date that John Adams believed would be “the most memorable epocha in the history of America.” On July 4, 1776, Congress approved the final text of the Declaration. It wasn't signed until August 2, 1776.-- (Constitution Facts)
Plenty of people have ancestors who arrived in North America and settled in colonies and wilderness areas before there was ever a nation - including Native Americans. Someof us would have been here, regardless.
02-27-2017 02:42 PM
Being almost half Irish-American, I have to wonder if they will be coming next for the undocumented Irish in the US. There are more than an estimated 50,000 here.
There are also a lot of undocumented arrivals from China. They've caught many, many coming in on cargo ships from China.
What about those people? What could be the reason they don't go after the Irish?
02-27-2017 02:45 PM
@Noel7 wrote:Being almost half Irish-American, I have to wonder if they will be coming next for the undocumented Irish in the US. There are more than an estimated 50,000 here.
There are also a lot of undocumented arrivals from China. They've caught many, many coming in on cargo ships from China.
What about those people? What could be the reason they don't go after the Irish?
Oh, please.
02-27-2017 02:48 PM
@Annabellethecat66 wrote:My great grandmother was a Cherokee Indian (on my Father's side).
My mother's grandmother and her grandfather came over from Ireland and Scotland.
My daughter has always gritted her teeth when she hears me say that I'm not entirely from immigrants.
So, on Christmas day I spit in a tube and she mailed it off. About 2 weeks ago she presented me with a piece of paper that had a map on it and showed that my heritage (whatever it's called) is Scotch/Irish and a tiny percentage something else. PERIOD>
I said, "OK, so that's what we've always known, your grandma's grandparents came from Scotland and Ireland. However, am I supposed to believe that my mother and father's relatives are BOTH from Scotland and Ireland"? Ha! Ha!
I know for a fact that my father's side of the family is predominately (not entirely) American Indian. Evidently, it didn't come through.
If you knew my maiden name (it is one of the most generic in the country) and if you can believe this, my grandmother married a man with the same generic last name as her grandfather but they weren't related! It is a very, very American name.
I just think this is so funny. I've felt like this stuff is pretty much made up. I think this proves it. I know it's very intricate but if you could see this map...
This was one of the most popular companies most people use. I don't know if it means my mother's side of the family had super strong genes and they only show through, but I am telling you that my Dad's side of the family is not represented.
I do think in some small (depending on how you look at it) way if for no other reasoning than we weren't just plopped here.......
You have to have a male family member test ,to know about the american indian in you,i did the same thing,it did not show it on me, my grandmother was american indiana.
02-27-2017 02:52 PM
@goldensrbest wrote:
@Annabellethecat66 wrote:My great grandmother was a Cherokee Indian (on my Father's side).
My mother's grandmother and her grandfather came over from Ireland and Scotland.
My daughter has always gritted her teeth when she hears me say that I'm not entirely from immigrants.
So, on Christmas day I spit in a tube and she mailed it off. About 2 weeks ago she presented me with a piece of paper that had a map on it and showed that my heritage (whatever it's called) is Scotch/Irish and a tiny percentage something else. PERIOD>
I said, "OK, so that's what we've always known, your grandma's grandparents came from Scotland and Ireland. However, am I supposed to believe that my mother and father's relatives are BOTH from Scotland and Ireland"? Ha! Ha!
I know for a fact that my father's side of the family is predominately (not entirely) American Indian. Evidently, it didn't come through.
If you knew my maiden name (it is one of the most generic in the country) and if you can believe this, my grandmother married a man with the same generic last name as her grandfather but they weren't related! It is a very, very American name.
I just think this is so funny. I've felt like this stuff is pretty much made up. I think this proves it. I know it's very intricate but if you could see this map...
This was one of the most popular companies most people use. I don't know if it means my mother's side of the family had super strong genes and they only show through, but I am telling you that my Dad's side of the family is not represented.
I do think in some small (depending on how you look at it) way if for no other reasoning than we weren't just plopped here.......
You have to have a male family member test ,to know about the american indian in you,i did the same thing,it did not show it on me, my grandmother was american indiana.
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Right @goldensrbest
If there is an available close male relative, like a father or brother, get them tested if possible.
02-27-2017 02:53 PM
@Noel7 wrote:Being almost half Irish-American, I have to wonder if they will be coming next for the undocumented Irish in the US. There are more than an estimated 50,000 here.
There are also a lot of undocumented arrivals from China. They've caught many, many coming in on cargo ships from China.
What about those people? What could be the reason they don't go after the Irish?
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02-27-2017 02:57 PM
@YorkieonmyPillow wrote:
@lianne wrote:I suppose my point was none of us would be here if our current climate was in force when our parents, grandparents or great grandparents came to our wonderful country we might not be here either. Think about it.
Immigrants have always been welcome in the US - "the great melting pot" - as long as they come in LEGALLY.
Think about that.
They may have been admitted but not neccessarily "welcomed." Each new influx of different nationalities of origin were not necessary treated well. Remember NINA? Similar treatment of each influx of nationalities, Italian, Chinese, Polish, etc., were discriminated against for years until they were able to get a foothold and often gathered/settled closely together to sustain an existence, until the next influx of another nationality came in and entered the bottom of the totem pole.
02-27-2017 02:58 PM
@JaneMarple wrote:
@Noel7 wrote:Being almost half Irish-American, I have to wonder if they will be coming next for the undocumented Irish in the US. There are more than an estimated 50,000 here.
There are also a lot of undocumented arrivals from China. They've caught many, many coming in on cargo ships from China.
What about those people? What could be the reason they don't go after the Irish?
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There is some background to go on. One was caught some years ago working in the upscale Stonestown shopping mall. He was a wanted man in Ireland and had participated in some heavy crime there.
02-27-2017 03:02 PM
@RoughDraft wrote:
@YorkieonmyPillow wrote:
@lianne wrote:I suppose my point was none of us would be here if our current climate was in force when our parents, grandparents or great grandparents came to our wonderful country we might not be here either. Think about it.
Immigrants have always been welcome in the US - "the great melting pot" - as long as they come in LEGALLY.
Think about that.
They may have been admitted but not neccessarily "welcomed." Each new influx of different nationalities of origin were not necessary treated well. Remember NINA? Similar treatment of each influx of nationalities, Italian, Chinese, Polish, etc., were discriminated against for years until they were able to get a foothold and often gathered/settled closely together to sustain an existence, until the next influx of another nationality came in and entered the bottom of the totem pole.
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You are so right @RoughDraft Especially the Irish and Italians. It was open discrimination for the Irish. On the East Coast there were signs saying, "Irish not welcome here."
My daughter's godfather is Italian and tells sad stories about the discrimination his grandparents dealt with, coming over from Italy.
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