What Were They Doing with - Page 2

hckynut · ‎03-10-2010

@occasionalrain wrote:
The parents should lose custody and the boys put in foster care. I don't believe they weren't shooting at the man nor that they didn't intend to kill him.
Why return them to parents who have already shown themselves to be incompetent incontrolingg their children?

@occasionalrain

I am fine with that if it applies to all non adult children including a different "deadly weapon". Parents that allow non legal children to drive a motor vehicle on public roads. Should they be found at fault and charged with Motor Vehicle Homicide/Careless use of a deadly weapon.

What numbers are higher, children(non adult) killing innocent people via Motor Vehicle, or killing people with a firearm? I have a feeling it's the latter.

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hckynut · ‎03-10-2010

@Isobel Archer wrote:
Well since we are wildly speculating - how do we know the kids weren't in a gang and were provided the gun illegally - and that shooting someone was their initiation.

This happens - and probably more often than kids taking a gun from their home and just deciding to shoot someone on a whim.

@Isobel Archer

I am sure as I read upward through these post I will see responses like "that's different". If so, I am guessing those that say that are not following what is happening in many of our largest cities. It is not an anomaly, it is happening on a regular basis.

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hckynut · ‎03-10-2010

@occasionalrain wrote:
Since a 22 rifle is used for hunting, parents are the most likely source.
Gangs don't go about with rifles slung over their shoulders.

@occasionalrain

I don't hunt because I think the animals are at an unfair disadvantage. I do however know many friends that do hunt, and not a single one of the uses a .22 rifle. Just an FYI. There are many rifles that are made to break down and very easy to carry, and/or conceal.

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Sooner · ‎03-10-2010

We don't see the same outrage when other things kill people.

States are legalizing marijuana now. And crime rates and shootings are increasing rapidly because of that.

A drunk driver mowed down three high school kids out running in Moore, Oklahoma and the trial was last week.

Alcohol and driving kills people of all ages daily.

Parents LET their kids have access to alcohol and drugs and guns.

But anything to do with guns and it's a different story here. Wake up and smell the coffee. What is the common denominator here?

Carelessness, stupidity, and lack of concern for the welfare of others. And guess what is the common cause of all of it? Careless and thoughtless PEOPLE.

So why do we have to paint a certain thing differently than we do other "causes" of death. Any outrage to ban alcohol? I think not.

Does alcohol cause drunk driving? No. People do. So stop and give that a little thought here. It's ALL the same thing. Only some is seen differently--and there's a reason for that. Because some people do us and some have and some don't have, so what we do is different of course. And nobody likes different do they?

occasionalrain · ‎03-10-2010

@hckynut

My understanding was that a 22 rifle is the first gun teenagers get who go hunting with their parents. I may be mistaken, it wouldn't be the first time.

spiderw · ‎06-14-2010

All the comments were interesting for lack of a better word. Some were sensible, others questionable. I will not comment on how I feel but I am sorry for the death of the father, sorry for the boys who whether accidentally or not shot him will have to live with that for the rest of their lives, sorry for the mother who has to make sense of this tragedy. Guns in a home need to be hidden from children, that is a known fact, a sensible fact and one which for whatever reason wasn't followed in this case.

hckynut · ‎03-10-2010

@spiderw wrote:
All the comments were interesting for lack of a better word. Some were sensible, others questionable. I will not comment on how I feel but I am sorry for the death of the father, sorry for the boys who whether accidentally or not shot him will have to live with that for the rest of their lives, sorry for the mother who has to make sense of this tragedy. Guns in a home need to be hidden from children, that is a known fact,

"a sensible fact and one which for whatever reason wasn't followed in this case".

@spiderw

I was with you in everything you said until the sentence quoted right above this. I haven't heard this on any news broadcast yet, have you? If so "bad on the parents". But liable? No.

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occasionalrain · ‎03-10-2010

Those who own guns and have children, should instruct them in the workings of guns and proper use of them. No matter how careful a person is, a brief lapse can result in tragedy.