Re: Wasteful Spending

pitdakota · ‎03-16-2010

@itiswhatitis wrote:
@hckynut wrote:

Saw on news last night that, i think it was NY, Medicaid payments of $2,300,000.00 was sent to dead people. Hello there, waste!
Don't know how Medicaid would send money to dead people, since Medicaid does not reimburse anyone for expenses. Did they send out this money to dead physicians and other healthcare practitioners? Do you mean Medicare?

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You are exactly right @itiswhatitis. This was Medicare and probably what @hckynut meant. Medicare fraud has long been a problem. The Medicare Fraud Strike Force sure stays busy and thanks to the funds from the Affordable Healthcare Act, they are catching more of it these days. This past June they filed charges against over 300 individuals (including a large number of healthcare providers). I think it was around $900 million dollars in false billing.

BTW, the funeral home notified Social Security & submitted the change of address for us when my mother died. They notified SS when Dad died but we didn't change the address then since my mother was still alive at that time.

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itiswhatitis · ‎05-27-2016

@pitdakota wrote:
@itiswhatitis wrote:
@hckynut wrote:

Saw on news last night that, i think it was NY, Medicaid payments of $2,300,000.00 was sent to dead people. Hello there, waste!
Don't know how Medicaid would send money to dead people, since Medicaid does not reimburse anyone for expenses. Did they send out this money to dead physicians and other healthcare practitioners? Do you mean Medicare?
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You are exactly right @itiswhatitis. This was Medicare and probably what @hckynut meant. Medicare fraud has long been a problem. The Medicare Fraud Strike Force sure stays busy and thanks to the funds from the Affordable Healthcare Act, they are catching more of it these days. This past June they filed charges against over 300 individuals (including a large number of healthcare providers). I think it was around $900 million dollars in false billing.

BTW, the funeral home notified Social Security & submitted the change of address for us when my mother died. They notified SS when Dad died but we didn't change the address then since my mother was still alive at that time.

Now, it makes sense. I kind of thought that was what the op meant, but I wasn't sure.

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hckynut · ‎03-10-2010

pitdakota wrote:

itiswhatitis wrote:

hckynut wrote:

Saw on news last night that, i think it was NY, Medicaid payments of $2,300,000.00 was sent to dead people. Hello there, waste!

Don't know how Medicaid would send money to dead people, since Medicaid does not reimburse anyone for expenses. Did they send out this money to dead physicians and other healthcare practitioners? Do you mean Medicare?

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You are exactly right @itiswhatitis. This was Medicare and probably what @hckynut meant. Medicare fraud has long been a problem. The Medicare Fraud Strike Force sure stays busy and thanks to the funds from the Affordable Healthcare Act, they are catching more of it these days. This past June they filed charges against over 300 individuals (including a large number of healthcare providers). I think it was around $900 million dollars in false billing.

BTW, the funeral home notified Social Security & submitted the change of address for us when my mother died. They notified SS when Dad died but we didn't change the address then since my mother was still alive at that time.

Just saying what i saw on the news. I have never dealt with Medicaid and know nothing about how it works. All i know is it can vary by states.

ETA:. Just checked and it was NY Daily News, and it did say Medicaid.

hckynut(john)

itiswhatitis · ‎05-27-2016

@hckynut wrote:
@pitdakota wrote:
@itiswhatitis wrote:
@hckynut wrote:

Saw on news last night that, i think it was NY, Medicaid payments of $2,300,000.00 was sent to dead people. Hello there, waste!
Don't know how Medicaid would send money to dead people, since Medicaid does not reimburse anyone for expenses. Did they send out this money to dead physicians and other healthcare practitioners? Do you mean Medicare?
_____________________________________________________

You are exactly right @itiswhatitis. This was Medicare and probably what @hckynut meant. Medicare fraud has long been a problem. The Medicare Fraud Strike Force sure stays busy and thanks to the funds from the Affordable Healthcare Act, they are catching more of it these days. This past June they filed charges against over 300 individuals (including a large number of healthcare providers). I think it was around $900 million dollars in false billing.

BTW, the funeral home notified Social Security & submitted the change of address for us when my mother died. They notified SS when Dad died but we didn't change the address then since my mother was still alive at that time.

Just saying what i saw on the news. I have never dealt with Medicaid and know nothing about how it works. All i know is it can vary by states.

ETA:. Just checked and it was NY Daily News, and it did say Medicaid.

Well, then those payments must have been going to phony doctors. Medicaid doesn't send people money. Not in NYS. Not anywhere. It supports people in the way of physician payment for medical services rendered.

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itiswhatitis · ‎05-27-2016

@hckynut wrote:
@pitdakota wrote:
@itiswhatitis wrote:
@hckynut wrote:

Saw on news last night that, i think it was NY, Medicaid payments of $2,300,000.00 was sent to dead people. Hello there, waste!
Don't know how Medicaid would send money to dead people, since Medicaid does not reimburse anyone for expenses. Did they send out this money to dead physicians and other healthcare practitioners? Do you mean Medicare?
_____________________________________________________

You are exactly right @itiswhatitis. This was Medicare and probably what @hckynut meant. Medicare fraud has long been a problem. The Medicare Fraud Strike Force sure stays busy and thanks to the funds from the Affordable Healthcare Act, they are catching more of it these days. This past June they filed charges against over 300 individuals (including a large number of healthcare providers). I think it was around $900 million dollars in false billing.

BTW, the funeral home notified Social Security & submitted the change of address for us when my mother died. They notified SS when Dad died but we didn't change the address then since my mother was still alive at that time.

Just saying what i saw on the news. I have never dealt with Medicaid and know nothing about how it works. All i know is it can vary by states.

ETA:. Just checked and it was NY Daily News, and it did say Medicaid.

I just read it and it's like I originally thought. Crooked health care practitioners who continued to bill for the deceased.

inappropriate payments included more than $7.1 million paid to long-term care providers for patients who had already been deemed ineligible for Medicaid and removed from the program. This is a mistake made by them and not the taxpayers.

Another $1 million came from overpayments for patients who had other health insurance coverage. This could be fraud on the part of the other insured and mistakes made by the City's Health Department.

Auditors also found that 31 health care providers in the Medicaid system had been charged with or had already been convicted of crimes that should have terminated their involvement. This is not fraud based on anything the recipients did.

All in all it is wasteful spending.

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hckynut · ‎03-10-2010

@itiswhatitis

Well! Where in my posts did i say i knew where this money was going, eh? I posted what i heard on the news/checked online and gave you the source i read/I also told you I know nothing about how it works.

What you know is obviously more than i do, and that is fine with me.

hckynut(john)

hfpint · ‎03-11-2010

When my grandfather passed away, he kept receiving phone calls at my house for him - he never talked on the phone because he was hard of hearing and people also had trouble understanding him when he talked. When I said that he wasn't living in the house anymore but phone calls kept coming (solicitors who wouldn't take no for answer and also that we were on the do not call list) so I gave them the number of the cemetary he is buried in and told them to ask for plot xxxx. Needless to say, I didn't get calls back.

itiswhatitis · ‎05-27-2016

@hckynut wrote:
@itiswhatitis

Well! Where in my posts did i say i knew where this money was going, eh? I posted what i heard on the news/checked online and gave you the source i read/I also told you I know nothing about how it works.

What you know is obviously more than i do, and that is fine with me.

@hckynut,eh what? I originally stated that the money was going to individuals. After you confirmed the news source, and I read it ~ it tied back to my original post. In other words, I backed up what I said in the first place.

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itiswhatitis · ‎05-27-2016

@hfpint wrote:
When my grandfather passed away, he kept receiving phone calls at my house for him - he never talked on the phone because he was hard of hearing and people also had trouble understanding him when he talked. When I said that he wasn't living in the house anymore but phone calls kept coming (solicitors who wouldn't take no for answer and also that we were on the do not call list) so I gave them the number of the cemetary he is buried in and told them to ask for plot xxxx. Needless to say, I didn't get calls back.

Not sure how this relates to wasteful spending (except maybe the cost to the fraudsters) calling your grandfather.

There is an opt out for mailings and a Do Not Call Registry but sometimes calls still get through.

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