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[ScarletDove]

Always thought Valerie Bertinelli was adorable, and she is still vivavious and adorable!

[Mominohio]

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@NAES1 wrote:

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@Mominohio wrote:

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@NAES1 wrote:

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@Mominohio wrote:

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@NAES1 wrote:

  @Maudlynn, 

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@Maudlynn wrote:

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@Mominohio wrote:

Have always loved her! She does seem genuine, fun and looks great, never ages!

Did anyone see the segment with Martha Stewart, when David brought Valerie out to meet her? Martha is such a stuffy snob. I get tired of her looking down her nose at people, and kind of felt sorry for Valerie during that moment. 

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Martha bonded with the girls in cell block c.  She doesn't strike me as as a snob at all. Could be the east coast vibe being misread as snooty.

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@Maudlynn,

               I absolutely agree, I do not 'think Martha Stewart' is a snob, but can sense her disappointment, being in a women's prison.

I always felt she was too trusting with her funds, accounts, (accountants) as a trust, ``` and took THE FALL.

In no way, do I, personally, 

entrust an accountant to handle my personal business. I did NOT know, in the beginning, how to -learn- how to handle my $$S, but now, pretty savvy, indeed. 

MS; She sometimes shys away from what people thinks; but still remembering a wrong doing. She is not perfect, nor is anyone in this world.

                                   NAES

 In time, people will finally forget.      I like her!   NAES.

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She absolutely did take the fall, and really got a raw deal in that whole thing. I always admired her ability to come back to the top after that.

But she is a snob. She doesn't make eye contact, talks down to people and is just cold. Some people are just like that. It makes anything she does unwatchable for me.

I admire her, but I don't like her.

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@       @Mominohio,

         Haaaaa, yes... Sounds like a convenient marriage: admire ' him'; (hope it's a woman to man), but I don't like OR   ..LOVE HIM!

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I'm sorry, but your responses dont' make sense to me, and I really don't understand them (not being combative, I really don't get what you are trying to express).

I think many people can be admired for their hard work, their success, their valor or their honor, but not be likeable to some people. 

They don't go hand in hand in my book.

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        @Mominohio, 

                     Some years ago, I had a sadness for her, but seldom had a chance to watch her; she probably was at her peak, or commonly known, "in her Heyday".

I was much younger than she, had my practice to tend to, but 'knew' she had some traits, being of somewhat a perfectionist..I really never wondered that much. BUT!

Being the sister of an adjunct clinical psychologist, I asked.

He knew of her, but knew nothing about her; I had small timed intervals when I had any reason to see her.

I know her [as] only a creative cook, having perfection among her magazine life and TV life. Actually, I wasn't that interested in an older woman doing what she loved, apparently, and I was driven by mine.

That told me, as I knew from my similar physiology, sociology and psychologist classes, certain people crave attention through what is a PERFECT, to have acceptance; most are very unhappy people, or have lived a tense childhood.

Mothers, usually, and some fathers, live vicariously through their children.

I witness this (almost) every single day, through different achievements -through ` that`,  the son or daughter has mastered.

Boys, sports. Girls, sometimes, marrying up. Only a guess. I surmise, immensely.

  Mominohio, you (in my hard analysis) have already opinionated her, when you have written: They don't go hand in hand in ""MY"" book.

  Understand, please, I never argue, or as you mentioned..combative.

Also, I don't quite understand why you label anyone as cold without knowing the patient, unless, you, yourself, is a board certified professional. maybe you are. That is not important to me.

 I am not here, to be that interested in others' lives.

   "I will be willing to hear why or how you know, or think of another, but will never begin an open... he said- she said..conversation".

Thank you for your view points, subjective mental act within the mind, as I find no conclusive findings.

  May be that there is another professional, of emotional behaviors, that can answer better than I.  

                                                     PEACE.   ~

NAES

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Calling someone 'cold' is not a clinical term or diagnosis. It is an opinion of the way someone comes across to another. 

Pretty simple and no degrees needed to look at someone's public persona (and she has a big one with many years on tv and in print) and behaviour, then form an opinion of it.  

[Mominohio]

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@Pearlee wrote:

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@catlover wrote:

I was so thrilled to see Valerie on QVC last night-what a great girl!

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@catlover  This "girl" was born in 1960, making her 57 yrs. old.   Hardly a girl.

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I don't care how old I get, I will never be offended by being called a girl. 

People are really too uptight about labels. I am more than one thing, Female, woman, girl, mother, sister, wife, daughter, aunt, niece, (maybe grandma some day). 

To me , to be a girl, is to be young at heart, vibrant, excited by life, giddy about things (and people) you love. It is to possess trust and innocence and passion. I don't find it demeaning or a lessening of the rest of me in any way to be called or though of as girl. 

[suzyQ3]

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@Mominohio wrote:

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@Pearlee wrote:

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@catlover wrote:

I was so thrilled to see Valerie on QVC last night-what a great girl!

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@catlover  This "girl" was born in 1960, making her 57 yrs. old.   Hardly a girl.

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I don't care how old I get, I will never be offended by being called a girl. 

People are really too uptight about labels. I am more than one thing, Female, woman, girl, mother, sister, wife, daughter, aunt, niece, (maybe grandma some day). 

To me , to be a girl, is to be young at heart, vibrant, excited by life, giddy about things (and people) you love. It is to possess trust and innocence and passion. I don't find it demeaning or a lessening of the rest of me in any way to be called or though of as girl. 

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I get your drift, @Mominohio, and it makes sense in many contexts, probably including this one.

ButI can unequivocally say that it is not always appropriate. It can be demeaning. I'm thinking of a professional setting. For example, my daughter is an in-house attorney for a big firm. If anyone referred to her as a "girl" in a work-related situation, it would not be appreciated at all, just as no one would refer to a man as a "boy."

Time and place. Time and place. :-)

[Irshgrl31201]

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@Mominohio wrote:

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@Pearlee wrote:

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@catlover wrote:

I was so thrilled to see Valerie on QVC last night-what a great girl!

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@catlover  This "girl" was born in 1960, making her 57 yrs. old.   Hardly a girl.

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I don't care how old I get, I will never be offended by being called a girl. 

People are really too uptight about labels. I am more than one thing, Female, woman, girl, mother, sister, wife, daughter, aunt, niece, (maybe grandma some day). 

To me , to be a girl, is to be young at heart, vibrant, excited by life, giddy about things (and people) you love. It is to possess trust and innocence and passion. I don't find it demeaning or a lessening of the rest of me in any way to be called or though of as girl. 

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I agree. 

[mspatmac]

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@NAES1 wrote:

  @Maudlynn, 

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@Maudlynn wrote:

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@Mominohio wrote:

Have always loved her! She does seem genuine, fun and looks great, never ages!

Did anyone see the segment with Martha Stewart, when David brought Valerie out to meet her? Martha is such a stuffy snob. I get tired of her looking down her nose at people, and kind of felt sorry for Valerie during that moment. 

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Martha bonded with the girls in cell block c.  She doesn't strike me as as a snob at all. Could be the east coast vibe being misread as snooty.

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@Maudlynn,

               I absolutely agree, I do not 'think Martha Stewart' is a snob, but can sense her disappointment, being in a women's prison.

I always felt she was too trusting with her funds, accounts, (accountants) as a trust, ``` and took THE FALL.

In no way, do I, personally, 

entrust an accountant to handle my personal business. I did NOT know, in the beginning, how to -learn- how to handle my $$S, but now, pretty savvy, indeed. 

MS; She sometimes shys away from what people thinks; but still remembering a wrong doing. She is not perfect, nor is anyone in this world.

                                   NAES

 In time, people will finally forget.      I like her!   NAES.

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IMO Martha is one of the most affected phony snobs I have ever seen.  Her put on airs and attitude have been carefully honed and waaay far away from her true roots as a blue coller Jersey girl.  Yes, I knew her when

[ScarletDove]

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I don't care how old I get, I will never be offended by being called a girl. 

People are really too uptight about labels. I am more than one thing, Female, woman, girl, mother, sister, wife, daughter, aunt, niece, (maybe grandma some day). 

To me , to be a girl, is to be young at heart, vibrant, excited by life, giddy about things (and people) you love. It is to possess trust and innocence and passion. I don't find it demeaning or a lessening of the rest of me in any way to be called or though of as girl. 

@Mominohio  Thank you my dear, how right you are; love your thinking!  I am 75 and refer to myself as an old girl.  No one can take the girl out of this one.......

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[LilacTree]

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@mspatmac wrote:

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@NAES1 wrote:

  @Maudlynn, 

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@Maudlynn wrote:

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@Mominohio wrote:

Have always loved her! She does seem genuine, fun and looks great, never ages!

Did anyone see the segment with Martha Stewart, when David brought Valerie out to meet her? Martha is such a stuffy snob. I get tired of her looking down her nose at people, and kind of felt sorry for Valerie during that moment. 

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Martha bonded with the girls in cell block c.  She doesn't strike me as as a snob at all. Could be the east coast vibe being misread as snooty.

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@Maudlynn,

               I absolutely agree, I do not 'think Martha Stewart' is a snob, but can sense her disappointment, being in a women's prison.

I always felt she was too trusting with her funds, accounts, (accountants) as a trust, ``` and took THE FALL.

In no way, do I, personally, 

entrust an accountant to handle my personal business. I did NOT know, in the beginning, how to -learn- how to handle my $$S, but now, pretty savvy, indeed. 

MS; She sometimes shys away from what people thinks; but still remembering a wrong doing. She is not perfect, nor is anyone in this world.

                                   NAES

 In time, people will finally forget.      I like her!   NAES.

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IMO Martha is one of the most affected phony snobs I have ever seen.  Her put on airs and attitude have been carefully honed and waaay far away from her true roots as a blue coller Jersey girl.  Yes, I knew her when

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@mspatmac

My beloved sister's husband went to Nutley high school with Martha, who had a different last name then.  He was a football player and she was popular, so they had a friendship, but they never dated.  He said she wasn't his type.  He became a veterinarian and she became a model. 

I don't think her family was poor, but I'd have to google that.  That was up in Sussex County, NJ.  Did you go to that school also?  You said you knew her.