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[Puzzle Piece]

I certainly believe that a voice can draw one in or repel you.  Why are so many women especially - nasal in their speech.  Don't they have others tell them to work on it?  Just as bad are those that have high excitable voices and use them though there isn't anything to be excited about. 

I know that voices must be important in attracting others - look at how many males use phone s*x and want to hear a certain voice speak to them. 

Even babies react to certain voices.  It is something important it would help a number in the media and celebs to attend classes in improvement of how they come across. 

[sfnative]

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@Puzzle Piece wrote:

I certainly believe that a voice can draw one in or repel you.  Why are so many women especially - nasal in their speech.  Don't they have others tell them to work on it?  Just as bad are those that have high excitable voices and use them though there isn't anything to be excited about. 

I know that voices must be important in attracting others - look at how many males use phone s*x and want to hear a certain voice speak to them. 

Even babies react to certain voices.  It is something important it would help a number in the media and celebs to attend classes in improvement of how they come across. 

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I know exactly what you're taking about!

As an avocation, I've been a vocalist for most of my life.  Part of that experience has included being a vocal coach and working with women who have experienced laryngeal injury during surgery (usually caused by an incorrectly inserted endotracheal tube).

That said, we, a vocal coaches, experienced a new challenge in the 80s with the "Valley Girl" manner of speech, which rolled over into singing - that being the placement of sound.  Most of us direct sound up and out of the larynx, then through and out of the mouth.  Part of the Valley Girl "sound" was to direct sound past the mouth and up into the sinuses.

As singers, we direct sound up to a "sweet spot" on the soft palette in the mouth, then direct that sound up into the sinuses to resonate.  This results in a rich sound, whereas the Valley Girl sound stops dead in the sinuses/nose, because it has not had a source of resonance.

Hope this had made some sense.

[newziesuzie]

Some times our voice is somebody's first impression of us.

I never thought of that until this thread.

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[newziesuzie]

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@brownponytail80 wrote:

We had a voice thread not too long ago here where people would record their voices and post the recordings for all of us to hear.  It was interesting to hear what everyone sounds like!

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I wonder if most of us would sound the same way we pictured each other sounding.  Isn't it funny how we get ideas of what posters look or sound like from posting with them?

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[silkyk]

I like what John Wayne said....."Talk low, talk slow, and don't say too much". Worked for him!

[sailor_moon]

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@sfnative wrote:

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@Puzzle Piece wrote:

I certainly believe that a voice can draw one in or repel you.  Why are so many women especially - nasal in their speech.  Don't they have others tell them to work on it?  Just as bad are those that have high excitable voices and use them though there isn't anything to be excited about. 

I know that voices must be important in attracting others - look at how many males use phone s*x and want to hear a certain voice speak to them. 

Even babies react to certain voices.  It is something important it would help a number in the media and celebs to attend classes in improvement of how they come across. 

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I know exactly what you're taking about!

As an avocation, I've been a vocalist for most of my life.  Part of that experience has included being a vocal coach and working with women who have experienced laryngeal injury during surgery (usually caused by an incorrectly inserted endotracheal tube).

That said, we, a vocal coaches, experienced a new challenge in the 80s with the "Valley Girl" manner of speech, which rolled over into singing - that being the placement of sound.  Most of us direct sound up and out of the larynx, then through and out of the mouth.  Part of the Valley Girl "sound" was to direct sound past the mouth and up into the sinuses.

As singers, we direct sound up to a "sweet spot" on the soft palette in the mouth, then direct that sound up into the sinuses to resonate.  This results in a rich sound, whereas the Valley Girl sound stops dead in the sinuses/nose, because it has not had a source of resonance.

Hope this had made some sense.

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@sfnative,

I was wondering, with you being a former vocal coach, what are your thoughts on creaking aka vocal fry?

I find it irritating, for some reason. 

[sfnative]

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@sailor moon wrote:

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@sfnative wrote:

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@Puzzle Piece wrote:

I certainly believe that a voice can draw one in or repel you.  Why are so many women especially - nasal in their speech.  Don't they have others tell them to work on it?  Just as bad are those that have high excitable voices and use them though there isn't anything to be excited about. 

I know that voices must be important in attracting others - look at how many males use phone s*x and want to hear a certain voice speak to them. 

Even babies react to certain voices.  It is something important it would help a number in the media and celebs to attend classes in improvement of how they come across. 

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I know exactly what you're taking about!

As an avocation, I've been a vocalist for most of my life.  Part of that experience has included being a vocal coach and working with women who have experienced laryngeal injury during surgery (usually caused by an incorrectly inserted endotracheal tube).

That said, we, a vocal coaches, experienced a new challenge in the 80s with the "Valley Girl" manner of speech, which rolled over into singing - that being the placement of sound.  Most of us direct sound up and out of the larynx, then through and out of the mouth.  Part of the Valley Girl "sound" was to direct sound past the mouth and up into the sinuses.

As singers, we direct sound up to a "sweet spot" on the soft palette in the mouth, then direct that sound up into the sinuses to resonate.  This results in a rich sound, whereas the Valley Girl sound stops dead in the sinuses/nose, because it has not had a source of resonance.

Hope this had made some sense.

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@sfnative,

I was wondering, with you being a former vocal coach, what are your thoughts on creaking aka vocal fry?

I find it irritating, for some reason. 

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sailor moon,

Apologies for taking so long to get back to you: my laptop is experiencing problems when I type, so had to get DH involved in it today.

Discountng those born with a creaky voice, and I've known a few, most of these cases can be explained in terms of overuse or trauma that was never treated or treated incorrectly.  A great majority of these folks my have nodes of their vocal folds.  Removal of a node or nodes may improve the quality of speech.  However, most folks are disinclined to seek treatment because: (1) their insurance won't pay for it; or, (2) they're afraid of the procdure (not enough information on board).

Hope this helps.

[MyShadowLove]

A very interesting thread!...I've enjoyed reading it!...So very true about how our voices are received by others and how we can be perceived and judged by just our voices alone.

Another fact I want to mention is how very fast talkers can have such an impact on us also...I have a neighbor who is very hyper when she talks...very excitable...and she always appears to be in such a rush...Whenever we have a conversation with each other, it always ends up leaving me feeling somewhat unsettled and  hyper myself!...LOL

[Q4u]

Yes, absolutely... however I also feel that is has a lot to do with personal preferences.  I personally can't take higher pitched voices either in song (Dolly Parton) or in speeches. I tend to listen better of people with lower pitched voices (Cher).  I don't like being screamed at (Whitney Houston, Albany) and do better at paying attention with a softer, lower timber.....   

[Perkup]

Speaking of voices, I feel that this is one of Carolyn's many strong points. Her voice is very comfortable to listen to. And she speaks slowly enough to be sure that all her words can be understood.  Others I won't mention remind me of used car salesmen, and are a complete turn off for me.