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@occasionalrain wrote:

I'm waiting for Prince Andrew to be blamed. The anti-royal faction won't let an opportunity like this go unused.


 

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What I found interesting was a short news blurb stating that the royals had to have an "emergency meeting" when her death was announced. 

 

Seems like they expect an upcoming PR nightmare and there are concerns this could make the royals look bad.

 

It also stated that her death (however it was) has put nails in the coffin for Andrew ever returning to royal duties.   

 

It's an interesting take on something that's old, settled news for Andrew.  

 

Do you think this is a new "crisis" for the royals?  

 

 

 

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The royals probably had an emergency meeting because the father is denying that it was suicide.  He will probably try to connect her death to the royal family.

 

Talk about beating a dead horse.

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I personally think the Father may be grieving, and these are his thoughts. Maybe not.  I really felt bad for her with all the school bus stuff. People are cruel, as we have seen.  There are hints she may have had an underlying illness as well   But who knows, none of the stories have been straight. And who is going to believe the Mirror, or Enquirer .  

over the years I have had a few friends commit suicide, and believe me theories always come up. Parents, friends always have theories. Who knows what goes on in peoples head. Most suicide victims don't always let you know what they are thinking.  I am sure some suicides are even done spur of the moment, almost not planning, just doing.  Look at people like Kate Spade and others.  They had so much to live for,  a daughter she adored and loved, and yet. There are others.  I am sure depression can set in, and mind goes off

 

i dont think Virginia was murdered, but makes for a good movie. It has all the twists and turns and people high up.i give it a year, and Lifetime will be on it.  Lol. 

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The murder theory sort of fits in with people who think Epstein was murdered 🤷‍♀️

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I read that there were some personal issues between Virginia and her estranged husband and children.  After the bus accident, her post about having a few days left to live was in an attempt to have contact with her children.   Not having contact with their children would sadden most mothers.

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Recent reports have come to light that she was an abused wife and had a restraining order preventing her from contacting her children as well as her husband.  When she went to file for a restraining order against him for abuse, she was too late, he had immediately filed one against her.

 

When you look at the picture she posted after the bus crash, it was assumed it was from the accident but it was reported there were no injuries from the crash.  If you look at that photo it most certainly looks more like abuse especially having injuries to her kidney.

 

I'm sure she had trauma from Epstein but she had been dealing with that through her therapist but to be in a physical abusive relationship and isolated from her children was far  more that she could handle.  I wish her peace and I pray that she found it, now.

 

If the results of an autopsy was done and is ever published, we will know a lot more.  I do not believe it was murder.

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@Somertime wrote:

Recent reports have come to light that she was an abused wife and had a restraining order preventing her from contacting her children as well as her husband.  When she went to file for a restraining order against him for abuse, she was too late, he had immediately filed one against her.

 

When you look at the picture she posted after the bus crash, it was assumed it was from the accident but it was reported there were no injuries from the crash.  If you look at that photo it most certainly looks more like abuse especially having injuries to her kidney.

 

I'm sure she had trauma from Epstein but she had been dealing with that through her therapist but to be in a physical abusive relationship and isolated from her children was far  more that she could handle.  I wish her peace and I pray that she found it, now.

 

If the results of an autopsy was done and is ever published, we will know a lot more.  I do not believe it was murder.


 @Somertime   I totally agree,  I didn't know a lot of this. But everything makes sense,  I never thought it woukd be murder.  Her choosing an abusive husband seems also par for the course to someone with her back ground. Never feeling good enough

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I do think Epstein was killed to shut him up. I am glad the woman, Giselle Maxwell (is that her name?), is in jail. I don’t know a lot about Virginia’s life, and state of being. But with what has been written here, I could see her committing suicide. What would be the reason to kill her? She already spoke out and settled with the royal family. The whole thing is so sad. And to know that young girls are still being abused today is beyond disgusting and disturbing.
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Re: VIRGINIA GIUFFRE

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Personally I think Epstein did kill himself. I think the guards never checked him, and were slow in even watching him. Sdmeone was asleep on the job. Also, I don't think they checked his cell like they might someone else.  He came in with a bad MO.  I don't think guards cared what happened. JMHO NOTHING ELSE

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Virginia's father is grieving so no judgement. 😞

Nor will I smear her for being involved with Epstein nor for her marriage and children.

 

Talk is cheap and no matter who "reports" any story it's just more juice for those who live for scandals.

 

The "Royals" meeting, if true, is no big deal. I'm sure there will be more resurfaced reporting about Andrew and so it goes. 🙄

 

As far as theories about Epstein, those always stem from people who were either for or against him because of politics, not at all out of concern for his victims.

 

RIP Virginia. Your story is still a reminder that victims are not always believed, that money can wipe away pain and suffering (it doesn't) and you will be judged by association, not by the actions of the perpetrator. May peace be your new path.🙏

 

 

 

 

 

 

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