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[Ketra]

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@Cakers3 wrote:

At the end of the day...

plant this and plant that. 

Just noise.

After all, what's a little pesticide in your salad?

Let people be, ftlog.

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@Cakers3  As they say, ignorance is bliss.

[suzyQ3]

I've never been clear on exactly what is so horrific about genetically modified food. They've beem around for decades and no adverse effects have been found. I think some of the over-the-top hysteria is just that.

I personally am a meat eater, so I stick with meat hamburgers on the rare occasion I eat them.

[QueenDanceALot]

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@sidsmom wrote:

At the end of the day,

organic this & organic that....just noise & 

gmo this & gmo that....just noise. 

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@sidsmom 

At the end of the day,

sticking your fingers in your ears just keeps you from hearing.

[Mindy D]

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@QueenDanceALot wrote:

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@Mindy D wrote:

BEYOND MEAT burgers have better ingredients. Not genetically modified

Beyond Burger™. The world's first plant-based burger that looks, cooks, and satisfies like beef without GMOs, soy, or gluten. Find It in the meat aisle. Beyond Burger™ ...

Size: 4 oz

Serving Per Container: 2

Amount Per Serving

Calories: 250

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% Daily Value*

Calcium10%

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Calories From Fat 140Cal

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Cholesterol 0mg0%

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Dietary Fiber 1g4%

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Iron25%

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Potassium 300mg9%

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Protein 20g40%

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Saturated Fat 4g20%

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Sodium 390mg16%

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Sugars 0g

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Total Carbohydrate 5g2%

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Total Fat 17g26%

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Trans Fat 0g

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Vitamin A0%

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Vitamin C0%

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* Percentage of Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet.

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Ingredients:

Water, Pea Protein Isolate*, Expeller-Pressed Canola Oil, Refined Coconut Oil, Rice Protein, Natural Flavors, Mung Bean Protein, Methylcellulose, Potato Starch, Contains 1% Or Less: Apple Extract, Salt, Potassium Chloride, Vinegar, Lemon Juice Concentrate, Sunflower Lecithin, Beet Juice Extract, Pomegranate Fruit Powder, Lycopene Color (From Tomato).

Allergens & Warnings:CONTAINS NO PEANUTS OR TREE NUTS.

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Plant based eating is very good (and not processed! - ideally), but can anyone say that this stuff isn't highly processed?

This is not a healthy alternative to meat.

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I’m not so sure about the processing. Drying yellow peas and grinding them up is not much processing. Expeller pressing oil isn’t much either. I’m wondering how coconut oil if refined and how rice protein is isolated from rice. I’d like to know how they get beet juice extract  and everything else in it. This could be highly refined but maybe not. I’d have to check each ingredients to know. I did think about your point before when I first heard about this product. I’d be more likely to try this company’s veggie burger than the Impossible Burger. 

[sidsmom]

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@suzyQ3 wrote:

I've never been clear on exactly what is so horrifec about genetically modified food. They've beem around for decades and no adverse effects have been found. I think some of the over-the-top hysteria is just that.

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@suzyQ3 

ITA.

People just read what’s on the package & pay a little more...

then leave the store thinking they’re doing better.

And unfortunately it’s not better. 

[Ketra]

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@cherry wrote:

@Cakers3  it makes me wonder why the sense of desperation, and the need to control others food choices..I don't understand it ,do you?

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@cherry  @Cakers3   We are duscussing what is being done to the food we eat without our consent. In particular, the article about the Impossible Burger explaining how they make it and why. Also, the impact of genetically modified food and chemical additives to our life span. If you don’t care about this subject fine, but that’s what this forum is about. Some of us care what is being done to our food supply chain and some of you don’t. No one in this forum is trying to control your food choices, only you can do that. We are exchanging information and ideas. You can pick and choose what you wish to take away.

[cherry]

We weren't talking about you @Ketra 

[QueenDanceALot]

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@Mindy D wrote:

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@QueenDanceALot wrote:

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@Mindy D wrote:

BEYOND MEAT burgers have better ingredients. Not genetically modified

Beyond Burger™. The world's first plant-based burger that looks, cooks, and satisfies like beef without GMOs, soy, or gluten. Find It in the meat aisle. Beyond Burger™ ...

Size: 4 oz

Serving Per Container: 2

Amount Per Serving

Calories: 250

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% Daily Value*

Calcium10%

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Calories From Fat 140Cal

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Cholesterol 0mg0%

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Dietary Fiber 1g4%

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Iron25%

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Potassium 300mg9%

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Protein 20g40%

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Saturated Fat 4g20%

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Sodium 390mg16%

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Sugars 0g

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Total Carbohydrate 5g2%

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Total Fat 17g26%

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Trans Fat 0g

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Vitamin A0%

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Vitamin C0%

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* Percentage of Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet.

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Ingredients:

Water, Pea Protein Isolate*, Expeller-Pressed Canola Oil, Refined Coconut Oil, Rice Protein, Natural Flavors, Mung Bean Protein, Methylcellulose, Potato Starch, Contains 1% Or Less: Apple Extract, Salt, Potassium Chloride, Vinegar, Lemon Juice Concentrate, Sunflower Lecithin, Beet Juice Extract, Pomegranate Fruit Powder, Lycopene Color (From Tomato).

Allergens & Warnings:CONTAINS NO PEANUTS OR TREE NUTS.

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Plant based eating is very good (and not processed! - ideally), but can anyone say that this stuff isn't highly processed?

This is not a healthy alternative to meat.

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I’m not so sure about the processing. Drying yellow peas and grinding them up is not much processing. Expeller pressing oil isn’t much either. I’m wondering how coconut oil if refined and how rice protein is isolated from rice. I’d like to know how they get beet juice extract  and everything else in it. This could be highly refined but maybe not. I’d have to check each ingredients to know. I did think about your point before when I first heard about this product. I’d be more likely to try this company’s veggie burger than the Impossible Burger. 

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Is pea protein isolate just ground dried yellow peas?   And yes, how is rice protein isolated from whole rice?  Sounds pretty processed to me.  Maybe not "highly refined" but still processed.  Plant based eaters do go on about not eating anything processed, so I would think this stuff would be unacceptable to them.  And the low fat contingent who rail against oil can't think that the high content of canola and coconut oil is acceptable either.

I'm not even militant about plant based (I eat a high plant content diet but am not 100% plant based, but I eat fresh and unprocessed as much as possible)  and I think this stuff is kind of dreadful.

[willdob3]

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@Cakers3 wrote:

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@Ketra wrote:

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@Cakers3 wrote:

Last I checked in the USA organic food cannot be GMO.

It varies in other countries.

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@Cakers3 Yes, and hopefully it stays that way.

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@Ketra   So do I.

Ingesting foods grown with chemicals and sludge based fertilizers should be a concern for everyone.

I'm really getting fed up with all the plant hype-heathy as the way of eating may be, we still do not measure the effects of everything used to grow them.

Organic doesn't have to be expensive, either. 

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But being organic still doesn’t necessarily make it safe for human consumption. There are a lot of things labeled “food” that our bodies have not evolved to be able to digest. Why anyone would want to risk eating hybrids or GMOs is beyond me. I guess they just don’t realize...

[Ketra]

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@QueenDanceALot wrote:

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@sidsmom wrote:

At the end of the day,

organic this & organic that....just noise & 

gmo this & gmo that....just noise. 

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@sidsmom 

At the end of the day,

sticking your fingers in your ears just keeps you from hearing.

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@QueenDanceALot @sidsmom   KittyLouWhoToo, LOL! 🤣 and yelling La La La La La as loud as you can. LOL!