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On 1/22/2014 LyndaGee said:

Even the movie "Lincoln" wasn't 100 percent accurate. It's a movie, not a documentary.

BRAVO!

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On 1/22/2014 Dagna said:
On 1/22/2014 Georgie the 5th said:
On 1/22/2014 Dagna said:
On 1/22/2014 Georgie the 5th said:
On 1/22/2014 deepwaterdotter said:
On 1/20/2014 Georgie the 5th said:

If you go to see this movie keep in mind that it is not a documentary. It is a work of historical fiction.

I didn't get the impression from the promotional trailers that this was a factual film. Did somebody promote this movie as a factual account?

No one in the industry promoted it as a factual account. However, there was much ado made on this board about the film being misleading. Just read some of the comments made on this thread.

The only thing I said was "misleading" was the rendering of the relationship between Nancy Reagan and the actual butler - Eugene Allen.

What I said about the rest is that I thought it was a shame that Hollywood did not think the story of the actual butler and his relationships with the presidents he served (as opposed to the minor snippets we got) was not a good enough story to tell and that it needed to be embellished with a past including the rape of his mother - driving her crazy and the murder of his father etc. etc.

Perhaps it was a compilation of the experiences of black people. Are you implying that what you described never happened to anyone?

And I guess that justifies making his wife a drunk who had an affair too. I mean some women fit that category - so hey why not?

Justify to whom? It was a movie, not a documentary. A movie like The Passion of the Christ or Lassie.

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The actual butler - Eugene Allen - is still alive.

All I am saying is that I, personally, - not everyone else should agree with me - but I - think it was disrespectful to him not to tell his actual story - which I think would have been rich and meaningful - and inspiring.

I get that Hollywood - and apparently many others - do not agree that this is an interesting story on its own - thus the need for the rest.

That is all I am saying.

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On 1/22/2014 Dagna said:

The actual butler - Eugene Allen - is still alive.

All I am saying is that I, personally, - not everyone else should agree with me - but I - think it was disrespectful to him not to tell his actual story - which I think would have been rich and meaningful - and inspiring.

I get that Hollywood - and apparently many others - do not agree that this is an interesting story on its own - thus the need for the rest.

That is all I am saying.

And all I'm saying is that The Butler is the story of a man by the name of Cecil Gaines.

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On 1/22/2014 Georgie the 5th said:
On 1/22/2014 Dagna said:

The actual butler - Eugene Allen - is still alive.

All I am saying is that I, personally, - not everyone else should agree with me - but I - think it was disrespectful to him not to tell his actual story - which I think would have been rich and meaningful - and inspiring.

I get that Hollywood - and apparently many others - do not agree that this is an interesting story on its own - thus the need for the rest.

That is all I am saying.

And all I'm saying is that The Butler is the story of a man by the name of Cecil Gaines.

It is a fictional story which is sad to me...

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I thought the movie was fantastic however I had no idea it wasn't a true story. What was wrong with the real story?
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Now were comparing the civil rights movement to lassie? Nice.
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Eugene Allen, with whom the Butler was supposedly based, died in 2010. Nothing in the Butler resembled Eugene Allen except that they were both black and worked as a butler in the White House. These are the true the facts. The movie the Butler was made up garbage. It is a shame. With decent writers this could have been a good story.

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On 1/22/2014 WestieLove said:
On 1/22/2014 Georgie the 5th said:
On 1/22/2014 Dagna said:

The actual butler - Eugene Allen - is still alive.

All I am saying is that I, personally, - not everyone else should agree with me - but I - think it was disrespectful to him not to tell his actual story - which I think would have been rich and meaningful - and inspiring.

I get that Hollywood - and apparently many others - do not agree that this is an interesting story on its own - thus the need for the rest.

That is all I am saying.

And all I'm saying is that The Butler is the story of a man by the name of Cecil Gaines.

It is a fictional story which is sad to me...

Are you saying you are sad that it is a fictional story and not a documentary or that you found the fictional story to be a sad story?

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On 1/22/2014 terrier3 said:
On 1/22/2014 TaxyLady said:

I watched it because I was told it was a great movie. I didn't think the acting was that good and I am sick and tired of watching movies about racism. There is racism on both sides. Every time American tries to heal, someone has to bring up all the rotten things of the past to incite anger in people. I would not recommend this movie. There was really nothing positive about it.

Racism on both sides?

Basically there was one group of people oppressed by another...the Civil Rights Act didn't become law until the 1960s.

People with your VP NEED to see movies like this one...and open your heart and mind.

quite bitter for some reason I would say.