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@teganslaw wrote:

SPURT, Steve Brown makes sense. The people pushing electric vehicles have an agenda and are too stubborn to listen to reason. EVs have their place, but there are too many questions unanswered. If certain officials and politicians weren't making money off this, they wouldn't care. 

As far as solar panels, in some places they might work, but they're not for everyone. 

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@teganslaw 

Yep, you are right, just follow the money to get to the reason and source of anything!  Steve's a good guy and always uses common sense! He is always that way on any topic. On his Facebook Page he outlined the pros and cons of solar, and sadly warned of the solar power installers that aren't honest.  What was interesting about Steve is he never did rely on computer models for his weather forecasts (which arent always accurate) he charted out his own based on weather patterns and atmospheric pressures etc etc....He also did a short clip every evening called "critter cam" which highlighted animal videos from himself and viewers in the area ...he loves animals which gives him an extra thumbs up from me too 

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@JamandBread wrote:

Within 10 years, the major car and truck manufacturers have plans to phase out the production of fuel combustion engines by 90%. There are articles and quotes directly from the manufacturers stating this.

You can't stop progress. Consumers our age have about 10-20 years left to drive. The car companies don't care what we think. They are catering to the new generation who are buying electric and living and thinking green. Complaining about the inevitable isn't going to stop progress. It's all about money and the demographic buying your product. And we aint it.

Many of us won't be around to see it, but the transition is in progress. 

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@JamandBread  First, this isn't progress unless you see all the negative impacts as such.

Second, it's not the new generation that the car companies are catering to. There's a group dictating policy to companies and world leaders.

Third, you are right about a transition happening. Very unnecessary and quite unfortunate. (people need to look at the bigger picture here)

Issues in Germany have been mentioned but are people aware of what has gone on in Sri Lanka and why? (hint: they started down the transition path around 10 years ago more or less, they now have major shortages and the prime minister just declared the country bankrupt. The people are justifiably not happy and the president flew the coop. If people haven't heard about this, a) there's a reason and b) you need better news sources especially before touting green energy and climate change.)

It may also behoove people to take a look at what's happening in Denmark. (hint: food is about to be an issue worldwide but the Danish gvt has decided to cut back on farms/livestock because 'climate' which will put farmers out of business and make the upcoming food shortages worse. Brilliant! Again, if people aren't aware, ask yourselves why and find better news sources.)

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@JamandBread wrote:

Within 10 years, the major car and truck manufacturers have plans to phase out the production of fuel combustion engines by 90%. There are articles and quotes directly from the manufacturers stating this.

You can't stop progress. Consumers our age have about 10-20 years left to drive. The car companies don't care what we think. They are catering to the new generation who are buying electric and living and thinking green. Complaining about the inevitable isn't going to stop progress. It's all about money and the demographic buying your product. And we aint it.

Many of us won't be around to see it, but the transition is in progress. 

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@JamandBread 

Yep, you are right ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY!!!  To quote Mario Puzo from the God Father, “Behind every successful fortune there is a crime.” And what certain people in charge are doing to the general public will indeed be a "crime"......

Well that's part of the problem everyone caters to certain demographics and the younger generation but ignore those with living experience and even more disposable income....And these young people come from I WANT IT NOW, so if there's "growing pains" on "progress" they wont tolerate it...And I wonder how they will feel about the length of time needed to re-charge electric vehicles---as well as the increased costs. That's gonna be interesting...And I dont think they will tolerate the high energy bills that go along with green energy........Already Germany has the highest energy bills in the world and they going back to some forms of fossil fuels.....The problem is the younger generation rushes ahead without taking time for research and analyzing things first....they will stand in line for the newest phone or tech gadget then complain about "the bugs" in the device and problems with things not working as they should....as we say in sports...STAY TUNED~

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@beckyb1012   I am almost giddy  to see the rain here in my part of DFW. What a lovely and welcome surprise this morning! It's not lasting long but there could be more this afternoon.

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@skatting44 wrote:

@On It 

   you may consider buying a generator that runs on battery power that can be charged by   either electric plug outlet or solar  to help keep it charged if electric goes out

I am planning ahead as  blackouts  for alot of people in the US are like

@skatting44 

I hear what you are saying but arent all these generators that have an electric charge and electric cars that must be charged arent they putting a strain on the grid, and solar isnt reliable in the winter...Yep, people are buying more and more generators to provide resources for themselves, but it doesnt solve the problem overall....

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@Spurt  Yep, when we were facing possible brownout's, the news had precautions to take to avoid such. They listed about five common things.

One new request was for people NOT to charge their electric cars. So it seems it IS acknowledged they do put a significant strain on the grid. And, we don't even have that many out there now. What happens when we eventually do? 

Right now there aren't a lot of reliable fixes for what we're facing. With all our knowledge, we're not there yet. 

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@BlueFinch 

There's no common sense...the carrot being held out is the money and thats what "the folks in charge" are focused on and how much will go into their own pockets....

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@Sweetbay magnolia wrote:

https://www.npr.org/2021/02/18/968921895/what-really-caused-the-texas-power-shortage

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Thank you!

Here's a snippet.....

BILL MAGNESS: Really, it was across the board. We saw coal plants, gas plants, wind, solar, just all sorts of our resources trip off and not be able to perform.

DOMONOSKE: Bill Magness is the president and CEO of ERCOT - or the Electric Reliability Council of Texas - which manages the state electric grid. These frigid temperatures had people across Texas plugging in electric heaters all at once.

MAGNESS: Fundamentally, it is a historic storm that drove electric demand higher than we've ever seen by far.

DOMONOSKE: And at the exact same time, the supply of electricity went down. Wind turbines did freeze, so did natural gas wells and pipelines and water pipes at coal and nuclear plants. All of this frozen equipment meant power plants couldn't function. There simply wasn't enough electricity to go around.

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@JamandBread 

So whats happening this summer that we are supposed to be adequately prepared for....could it be the windmills arent turning....and the fossil fuel mix isnt enough...no problems in the past.....just when Texas went "renewable"

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So the CEO at ERCOT is a liar. Got it.

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@JamandBread 

This is what he said on 2/1/22 from the houston newspaper....

The providers instead chose to put profits over the welfare of people, and ERCOT allowed them to do so," .

YES, that CEO got caught in his lies when others at that same meeting came forward and reported in 45 seconds they decide there's enough fuel to weather storm....and the other part of the meeting was spent laughing at Texans wearing cowboy boots in the snow.....He later resigned, if he told truth, why resign 😥...maybe I should post the report from our cities investigation....

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He was pushed out as he should have been. Although he claims the texas legislature is responsible for ERCOT. He said "you created us, you can change us". 

I do agree, why resign if you didn't lie? Why plead the 5th when you did nothing wrong? Why refuse to testify if you have nothing to hide? Applies across the board, right?

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@JamandBread 

I certainly agree 

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@DrBabs wrote:

@beckyb1012   I am almost giddy  to see the rain here in my part of DFW. What a lovely and welcome surprise this morning! It's not lasting long but there could be more this afternoon.

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Two + hours now but it is lightening up a bit.  I feel like going out their in dancing in my downtown Rose Capital!!

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@JamandBread wrote:

Within 10 years, the major car and truck manufacturers have plans to phase out the production of fuel combustion engines by 90%. There are articles and quotes directly from the manufacturers stating this.

You can't stop progress. Consumers our age have about 10-20 years left to drive. The car companies don't care what we think. They are catering to the new generation who are buying electric and living and thinking green. Complaining about the inevitable isn't going to stop progress. It's all about money and the demographic buying your product. And we aint it.

Many of us won't be around to see it, but the transition is in progress. 

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@JamandBread   Plans to decrease fuel combustion engines started back in the 1970's but were dismissed.  That is a fact.

All this new found hand-wringing about gas powered vehicles and climate change and plastic and the ocean and contaminated water - I could go on and on.  All those who were demanding solutions decades ago were told to sit down and shut up you tree-hugging hippies.

Now all of a sudden we have this angst as though the damage to our Earth happened just 10 years ago.

It would almost be laughable if it wasn't so serious.

"Better late than never" isn't going to cut it, either. 

I'm watching this with sadness because the solutions we "hippies" worked so hard to bring into focus were dismissed.  Because money talks and most people didn't give a flying flower.

Oil was king and don't anyone DARE to draft alternative car engines.

People didn't want to give up plastic;consumed food packaged in wasteful containers at fast-food places; tsk'ed tsk'ed at such disasters as Love Canal among others then went outside to water their precious landscaping.

We have had decades of people not giving a rat's patooey and now all of a sudden the "newly awakened environment authorities" are going to tell those of us who have known all along the damage that was lying in wait under the tip of the iceberg.

Everyone wants a seat at the popular table; forgetting the price they were paying all along to get there.

SMH

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@granddi wrote:

www.reuters.com › business › energyTexas freeze delivers billions in profits to gas and power ...

Natural Gas producers and pipeline companies are the winners in the Texas Grid System. It is my opinion that we can debate green energy vs fossil fuels. Or maybe its the population growth or all those electric cars. Bitcoin mining is a huge user of electricity. 

In the end it is my opinion that The Texas Grid is controlled by the Energy Industry and our leaders allow this to be. 

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@granddi 

But its not just a Texas problem, California has its own 
"demons" to deal with including "green energy" and blackouts already in place...and the National Grid is following suit......as the article I posted said....

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@Overseas Traveler wrote:

I live in San Antonio, Tx. We have from 100 to 110 Temps here for the last 6 to 8 weeks.

Plus when the Temp goes dow the Humididy rises. I have my AC set at 81 with Ceiling Fans running 24/7 that is comfortable for me.

I have to tell all of you that Texas is not the only State that is having issues. Just look at the so called Golden State that has continous Brown out and much higher PG&E prices.

The New Green Deal s failing all of us we can not just rely on Wind and Solar Power.

Plus the Population in Texas has increased a lot and that also puts a strain on the Electrical Grid - More Peaplle with big Houses, More Electrical usage - It is only Logical.

People have to Think about all the variables before speaking out. It is not just one thing it is a combination of things.

wishing you a nice Day 

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@Overseas Traveler   Well stated.

I could say more but it would get political.