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08-13-2016 11:52 AM
It's Me Agan..Bohemian Gal...
I just wanted to clarify that while I am conflicted personally on this issue (.due to moral and religious beliefs), I do believe that it is a choice that every individual has the right to decide for themselves, and should absoutely have that right. I also beleive that this should be a "nationwide" right to choose.
ALS is a horrific disease. I know several people who passed from it...one was fortuante to go quickly, the others suffered for years. I also witnessed my father dying of terminal cancer and he suffered terribly the last 4 months of his life, as well as our entire family. While he made thej decision tp "fight till the end", I would have understood completely if he made the descision to end his life earlier..(If it was legal in our state, which is is NOT).
I feel, regardless of what your personal decision may be in this matter, either way, it takes great courage.....
Godspeed to her. (the woman in CA).....may she RIP. and be enjoying the Glory of Heaven......
08-13-2016 12:11 PM
I watched my precious terminally ill young husband suffer incredibly from battling a rare cancer for 6 years with my young children as witness . In the last year of his life in excruciating pain he desperately wished the doctors could give him something to end the pain and suffering . Perhaps anyone who first hand has seen a loved one go through this would understand the decision not to suffer despite religions reasons .....
i hope the laws change in every state in our country
08-13-2016 01:11 PM
noel7 thank you for all your kind words.....you brought me to tears honestly. I miss him every day and i thank him every day for loving us so much to fight and last as long as he did for us. he was so old school came over from italy no real education but full of pride and an honest days hard work! he was such a cut up he'd make you laugh for sure!!! Your very kind noel, i was worried when i joined this QVCpost, I am new to QVC,& the posts & the COMPUTER!!! you'd laugh if you seen the messes i get in pressing wrong things (i accidentally deleted EVERYTHING on my new phone my daughter put me on-just wait for her to come rescue what the heck i did But I truly enjoy the people on QVC, i guess i look at them like family cause i'm recently disabled and home alot, so i guess i just love to see davids happy dance, mary beths special light in her eyes, shawns antics get me laughing(could not understand why Isaac n her werent turning around-now i get it) I love Leah, Jill, carolyn,kirsten,jen,alberti, preston(love to listen about the trips n all the different gems) ALL of them i enjoy they really keep me company, even if I dont order things much. thank you noel7, you are a special person!!! God Bless you, mimers
08-13-2016 01:21 PM
@mimers wrote:noel7 thank you for all your kind words.....you brought me to tears honestly. I miss him every day and i thank him every day for loving us so much to fight and last as long as he did for us. he was so old school came over from italy no real education but full of pride and an honest days hard work! he was such a cut up he'd make you laugh for sure!!! Your very kind noel, i was worried when i joined this QVCpost, I am new to QVC,& the posts & the COMPUTER!!! you'd laugh if you seen the messes i get in pressing wrong things (i accidentally deleted EVERYTHING on my new phone my daughter put me on-just wait for her to come rescue what the heck i did But I truly enjoy the people on QVC, i guess i look at them like family cause i'm recently disabled and home alot, so i guess i just love to see davids happy dance, mary beths special light in her eyes, shawns antics get me laughing(could not understand why Isaac n her werent turning around-now i get it) I love Leah, Jill, carolyn,kirsten,jen,alberti, preston(love to listen about the trips n all the different gems) ALL of them i enjoy they really keep me company, even if I dont order things much. thank you noel7, you are a special person!!! God Bless you, mimers
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How nice of you, mimers! Thank you for your kind response
You were so lucky to have such a wonderful father, and you and I are both lucky to have great daughters who help us out in the tech world.
I also have to be home for periods of time while fighting lupus, so I understand what you mean.
Take care, Noel
08-13-2016 01:38 PM
My cousin also had ALS and did something similar. She was very religious (Catholic) but didn't want to prolong the inevitable.
She had a PhD in Music Education and loved to sing and play instruments.
Her husband was an OB-GYN. When the time came when she had trouble swallowing, she had everyone come to visit her and say goodbye. We are a very large family with lots and lots of cousins (she herself had six kids). It was a huge party. She was always full of life and love, right up until the end. She could still whisper and spoke to us all. She was at peace.
When she could no longer swallow and had trouble breathing on her own she didn't allow the trach to be put in, which would have ended her ability to speak and sing. She then contracted pneumonia (a common side effect). was medicated and passed in peace.
If she wasn't married to a physician, I think the outcome and her suffering would have continued.
It's wonderful that people can make their own choices now.
08-13-2016 01:45 PM
Trinity11 thank you also for your very kind words to me! i was the one blessed to have him for my dad, as i'm sure we all feel about our parent, grandparent or guardian who raised us up. usually I dont ever like to say its right or wrong; i have lots of fears & always thought God's gonna do that;: but sometimes i so fear Trinity11, that day might come when we'll be asked where we stand & i think of Betsys courage & my dads courage & i pray that I'll have that same courage to close my eyes & say myheart & my stand is with my heavenly Father. God Bless you trinity11 mimers
08-13-2016 03:10 PM
GSMOM I am so sorry you and your family suffered so cruely, i think of how after being told God always gives us choices, he didn't create us to be puppets & he is a loving and merciful God, in my heart i can not see God condeming someone who suffered as your husband or others whose pain and suffering is so great. He sees into our hearts, He knows more than we ourselves know about ourselves. {what father among you would give your child a fish if he asked for a loaf of bread, how much more will your havenly father give to those who ask, } I think religion has laws and God sees the heart. recently i realized just how much we've been given to help us on our journey, like things that are from the earth, medicinesthat grow from the earth, the latest on algae and the seas gifts to us, the colors of our world for us to look at better than a painting, He gave us all this cause he loves us, why would he condem man for asking to be released from such immense pain and suffering? the war on cancer-why cant we stop all the things in our society, in our food supplys, our enviroments that CAUSE all these horrible cancers & diseases that the drs are so desperatly tryn to keep up with n fight against. I dont know alot of things honestly, im a very simple person, but i would hope i'm right that God who tastes the salt from our tears & carries us when we cant go on IS indeed the God of mercy, understanding & uncondtional love. i pray GSMOM your pain will be somewhat lessened knowing you WILL be reunited with your loving & precious husband. God bless you n your family mimers
08-13-2016 03:33 PM
Thank you mimers for your very sweet and thoughtful post
Both of us had tremendous faith which got us through the most difficult times
And my faith still carries me
hugs for your kind words
08-13-2016 03:45 PM
Noel, Oh boy u are so right with our daughters and the tec world, even the cable remotes they help with, i make lists so i dont forget when they come over to help me with! even my 4 yr old grandaughter (calls me mimi) said one day when my computer went blank......."oh mimers, you want me to help you?!? ( where did mimers come from i thought?!?) you are in my prayers noel and your family too.....mimers(guess i got a nickname?!)
08-13-2016 03:52 PM - edited 08-13-2016 06:22 PM
I think it is wonderful Ms Davis was able to pass at home and not in a foreign country - like Sweden as a beloved friend did in May.
BTW - she attended church every week and beloved in the Lord.
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