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[Noel7]

ps.

I don’t smoke, heck I don’t even use our fireplace because of air particles from burning.  And if the government kicks in for asthma, I never got a penny of my supposed share,  I pay my own way in this world.

So, @shoekitty

How is asthma my lifestyle choice?

[shoekitty]

@Noel7

I wasn't articulate as I should I have been.  I get tired of writing a five page disclaimer on every word I say.  That's why i hate getting involved in all these conversations. Lol. My RA  has been so bad I can hardly type, and all I have right now is a lousy ipad I hate.   But what I meant is is, some people can get asthma as a secondary illness  from smoking, drugs.  asthma  can worsen with poor environment as well. I don't think an asthmatic would fair well, or heal working on a coal mine, or working at a job in a meat smoking plant.

,I have worked with people, when I was working....who acquired asthma from smoking.  They probably were predisposed. Inhalers and some of the treatments were too expensive, so they got the inhalers and treatments from Helping Hands, or other organizations who pay for meds and treatments because they qualify, or they don't have insurance.   These organizations that help,get some funding from tax money collected on cigarettes,  and other vice taxes.  As well as funding from other sources.

i was trying to convey how taxes from smokes, gambling casinos, sodas, snack foods yada yada are used to fund illness that can arise from certain lifestyles.  We all know I am sure, lung cancer asthma,,illness from obesity, and a list of diseases can be caused by other means than lifestyle.  No matter how you get it, if you do not have funding, , or 400 bucks for a treatment is not in your budget, there is funding, or partial funding if you qualify from vice taxes as I call them for sake of finding another word.

[shoekitty]

Oh geesh noel quit nit picking. It not what I said.  

[cherry]

@Trinity11    I will never do that diet, I already struggle getting enough protein from my food

Some people don't seem to understand it's no sale with many of us here.  I hate that type of food ,and I think it tastes awful, even if I didn't have a protein deficiency, I would never eat it

[Trinity11]

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@cherry wrote:

@Trinity11    I will never do that diet, I already struggle getting enough protein from my food

Some people don't seem to understand it's no sale with many of us here.  I hate that type of food ,and I think it tastes awful, even if I didn't have a protein deficiency, I would never eat it

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I was desperate @cherry after my heart attack. I would live on it if I had results. My children have vegan and plant based friends that have done really well but neither of them fared well on the plant based diet. If someone fares well on it, I think it is great. However, these posts claiming it helps asthma, heart disease and lupus is not true for everyone. The one size fits all mentality and the promise of being healthier eating a plant based diet with the implication that people want to be sick is bogus. 

[cherry]

The best thing everyone can do is to trust your Dr , you know the guy or gal who actually went to medical school.

I saw a licensed nutritionist when I was first diagnosed @Trinity11  and she never once said a thing about a whole plant diet

For me ,I will choose what keeps my blood sugar stable, and not someone selling things off the net, to make money.

[Trinity11]

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@cherry wrote:

The best thing everyone can do is to trust your Dr , you know the guy or gal who actually went to medical school.

I saw a licensed nutritionist when I was first diagnosed @Trinity11  and she never once said a thing about a whole plant diet

For me ,I will choose what keeps my blood sugar stable, and not someone selling things off the net, to make money.

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@cherry...I ran it by both my cardiologist and my interventionalist. Both were on board with it but my interventionalist was worried about my diabetes. He was against my eating so many carbohydrates. He told me most of his repeat clients are overweight or have high A1C's. He thinks I am going to do well reducing my eating beef, ham and sweets. Stress he thinks is up there with a poor diet. He is head of cardiology of St. Francis, NY. He has videos on the net where he does interviews and he even cooks healthy foods.