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[mstyrion 1]

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@Ladybug724 wrote:

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@Ladybug724 wrote:

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@mstyrion 1 wrote:

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@curlywhitedog wrote:

I think the Starbucks frenzy is representative of a larger problem but that silly cup seems to have assumed the position of that last straw on the camel's back.  People are just tired of having their beliefs cast aside in order to accomodate the wishes of the few who might find them offensive.  Political correctness has gone amouck and "offend no one" is the mantra of the day now so people are perceiving that plain red cup as just one more indication that their christian beliefs are being trampled on.    To them the red cup says "we don't celebrate Christmas anymore".  True or not, that's the perception and that percepton is what's driving the frenzy.

Store clerks no longer saying Merry Christmas, schools being prevented from having Christmas plays or singing Christmas carols, nativities no longer welcome in town squares...stuff like that gets under people's skin and has been for years.  I don't have any problem with the cups being plain red, especially since I don't patronize Starbucks, but to those people who do, I say "cast your vote with your wallet".  If you find the red cup offensive, start getting your coffee someplace else and if it's ok with you then get a muffin with your maccioto.   Sometimes you have to just pick your battles. 

Maria

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I understand your frustration, but here's where your disatisfaction about "political correctness" is wrong:  nativity scenes and religious XMas songs do not belong in public places or schools.  Churches and faith-based schools are  the appropriate places for these things.

Store clerks are instructed to be inclusive by saying Happy Holidays.  I say that as well and if the person answers back Merry XMas, I know they celebrate Christmas and also respond in kind.  It is arrogant to presume all people celebrate the Christian holiday.  

There are more than a "few" non-Christians in this country.  

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So now if I say Merry Christmas I'm being arrogant?  Isn't this just the reverse side of the problem?  I thought when I tell people Merry Christmas I'm being nice!

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sigh.

I didn't say that at all. You even highlighted my sentence which says: It is arrogant to presume all people celebrate the Christian holiday.  And it is. Simple as that.   Did you bother to read the sentences before that comment?

Geesh. If you're looking to get offended, have at it.  I can't help you.

[biancardi]

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@Ladybug724 wrote:

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@Ladybug724 wrote:

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@mstyrion 1 wrote:

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@curlywhitedog wrote:

I think the Starbucks frenzy is representative of a larger problem but that silly cup seems to have assumed the position of that last straw on the camel's back.  People are just tired of having their beliefs cast aside in order to accomodate the wishes of the few who might find them offensive.  Political correctness has gone amouck and "offend no one" is the mantra of the day now so people are perceiving that plain red cup as just one more indication that their christian beliefs are being trampled on.    To them the red cup says "we don't celebrate Christmas anymore".  True or not, that's the perception and that percepton is what's driving the frenzy.

Store clerks no longer saying Merry Christmas, schools being prevented from having Christmas plays or singing Christmas carols, nativities no longer welcome in town squares...stuff like that gets under people's skin and has been for years.  I don't have any problem with the cups being plain red, especially since I don't patronize Starbucks, but to those people who do, I say "cast your vote with your wallet".  If you find the red cup offensive, start getting your coffee someplace else and if it's ok with you then get a muffin with your maccioto.   Sometimes you have to just pick your battles. 

Maria

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I understand your frustration, but here's where your disatisfaction about "political correctness" is wrong:  nativity scenes and religious XMas songs do not belong in public places or schools.  Churches and faith-based schools are  the appropriate places for these things.

Store clerks are instructed to be inclusive by saying Happy Holidays.  I say that as well and if the person answers back Merry XMas, I know they celebrate Christmas and also respond in kind.  It is arrogant to presume all people celebrate the Christian holiday.  

There are more than a "few" non-Christians in this country.  

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So now if I say Merry Christmas I'm being arrogant?  Isn't this just the reverse side of the problem?  I thought when I tell people Merry Christmas I'm being nice!

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are you a store clerk?  that was the example given.

[Lila Belle]

I think some people just have a hard time understanding differences and coming to terms with the fact that that we don't live in a homogeneous society, which we never did anyway.

[Ladybug724]

For crying out loud everyone needs to stop being so offended at stupid things.  One group gets offended about red cups, another group gets offended at being told Merry Christmas.  Sheesh people there are such bigger issues to worry about!  

[sidsmom]

[Lila Belle]

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@sidsmom wrote:

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I'll drink to that and also to men and women of good will !

[Moonchilde]

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@Lila Belle wrote:
I think some people just have a hard time understanding differences and coming to terms with the fact that that we don't live in a homogeneous society, which we never did anyway.

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Some people have decided they choose not to acknowledge this.  The whole "war on Christmas" thing goes right along with being "against" anything or anyone different than they are. They find it threatening. 

[ROMARY]

I think Happy Holidays is nice.  Everyone around here seems happy about that. .  p.s. I place Chinese New Year cards on several doorsteps around here.  And even write the Chinese words, because many of the grandparents don't speak English; but we manage to sign to each other.  (We look up at the sun and do the 'thumbs up' sign on a nice, sunny day, etc.)  The grandparents sure teach the very young grandchildren to wave hello, blow kisses to me as I walk by.  Warms my heart.

[RoughDraft]

Is it too early to wish everyone a Happy Festivus?   

[NoelSeven]

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@Ladybug724 wrote:

For crying out loud everyone needs to stop being so offended at stupid things.  One group gets offended about red cups, another group gets offended at being told Merry Christmas.  Sheesh people there are such bigger issues to worry about!  

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That's not it at all.  Doesn't even come close.