Re: Starbucks' Cup Controversy

mstyrion 1 · ‎09-18-2014

@ValuSkr wrote:
Ellen was poking gentle fun at folks who are outraged over the red cup. She said the old cups had snowflakes, Santa's sleigh, elves - "you know, all the things that are in the Bible." Why not laugh at yourselves; life's too short to take so seriously. And please continue to buy ED On Air products.

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That's what I thought.

The poster who tried to exaggerate what she said is strangely missing. hmmmm.

~Enough is enough~

Ladybug724 · ‎03-12-2010

@mstyrion 1 wrote:
@curlywhitedog wrote:

I think the Starbucks frenzy is representative of a larger problem but that silly cup seems to have assumed the position of that last straw on the camel's back. People are just tired of having their beliefs cast aside in order to accomodate the wishes of the few who might find them offensive. Political correctness has gone amouck and "offend no one" is the mantra of the day now so people are perceiving that plain red cup as just one more indication that their christian beliefs are being trampled on. To them the red cup says "we don't celebrate Christmas anymore". True or not, that's the perception and that percepton is what's driving the frenzy.

Store clerks no longer saying Merry Christmas, schools being prevented from having Christmas plays or singing Christmas carols, nativities no longer welcome in town squares...stuff like that gets under people's skin and has been for years. I don't have any problem with the cups being plain red, especially since I don't patronize Starbucks, but to those people who do, I say "cast your vote with your wallet". If you find the red cup offensive, start getting your coffee someplace else and if it's ok with you then get a muffin with your maccioto. Sometimes you have to just pick your battles.

Maria
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I understand your frustration, but here's where your disatisfaction about "political correctness" is wrong: nativity scenes and religious XMas songs do not belong in public places or schools. Churches and faith-based schools are the appropriate places for these things.

Store clerks are instructed to be inclusive by saying Happy Holidays. I say that as well and if the person answers back Merry XMas, I know they celebrate Christmas and also respond in kind. It is arrogant to presume all people celebrate the Christian holiday.

There are more than a "few" non-Christians in this country.

Lila Belle · ‎01-24-2013

Trust Ellen to get at the heart of the matter.

I didn't believe that earlier post saying that she took aim at Christians.

That isn't Ellen's way...anyway.

Why lie about someone you disagree with ? I just don't understand why someone claiming to follow Christ doing such a thing.

NoelSeven · ‎03-09-2010

@GingerPeach wrote:
@Lisa in Hickory NC wrote:
The cup controversy is ridiculous. Attacking all Christians over it as "Ellen" did on her show is also ridiculous and offensive. I won't buy her products or watch her show.
Sad situation all the way around.
Lisa, you can't be serious. Here is the youtube video of how Ellen handled this. Now let's all go get some of those Starbucks Holiday Vision glasses: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJyfQS3Pb9g

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Thank you, too, HG.

Ellen most certainly did not attack Christians.

A Thrill Of Hope The Weary World Rejoices

JustJazzmom · ‎03-09-2010

@SusieQ_2 wrote:
Hey! She called (jokingly) the new cups "Satan Sippers." What? She must have heard me say he could be on my cup, and as long as he doesn't take a sip, who cares?

The monologue today wasn't nearly as funny as this one which is hilarious (also about Starbucks). Enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ1ss_Ahb44

The 'squatters'!!

☼The best place to seek God is in a garden. You can dig for him there. GBShaw☼

biancardi · ‎03-10-2010

@ROMARY wrote:
Biancardi: I believe that some of the old statues were removed (many years ago) in some churches when being remodeled, etc. Or rebuilt. Or 'modernized'. In the past, long years ago. But, maybe folks here know for sure........ I recall it bothering me way back, and asking while visiting a small town: 'What happened to the beautiful statues?', etc., etc. I was told that a few parishioners bought a few them.........But that was then, and now is now.

that is different. No one forced them to take it down. The Church was not under attack. They decided to remove them for their own reasons.

If you can't fix what's broken, you'll go insane ~ Max
Look, I don’t like the taste of broccoli, but it doesn’t get tastier if you call it “Broccoli!”!
You mustn't be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling. ~ Eames

Ladybug724 · ‎03-12-2010

@Ladybug724 wrote:
@mstyrion 1 wrote:
@curlywhitedog wrote:

I think the Starbucks frenzy is representative of a larger problem but that silly cup seems to have assumed the position of that last straw on the camel's back. People are just tired of having their beliefs cast aside in order to accomodate the wishes of the few who might find them offensive. Political correctness has gone amouck and "offend no one" is the mantra of the day now so people are perceiving that plain red cup as just one more indication that their christian beliefs are being trampled on. To them the red cup says "we don't celebrate Christmas anymore". True or not, that's the perception and that percepton is what's driving the frenzy.

Store clerks no longer saying Merry Christmas, schools being prevented from having Christmas plays or singing Christmas carols, nativities no longer welcome in town squares...stuff like that gets under people's skin and has been for years. I don't have any problem with the cups being plain red, especially since I don't patronize Starbucks, but to those people who do, I say "cast your vote with your wallet". If you find the red cup offensive, start getting your coffee someplace else and if it's ok with you then get a muffin with your maccioto. Sometimes you have to just pick your battles.

Maria
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I understand your frustration, but here's where your disatisfaction about "political correctness" is wrong: nativity scenes and religious XMas songs do not belong in public places or schools. Churches and faith-based schools are the appropriate places for these things.

Store clerks are instructed to be inclusive by saying Happy Holidays. I say that as well and if the person answers back Merry XMas, I know they celebrate Christmas and also respond in kind. It is arrogant to presume all people celebrate the Christian holiday.

There are more than a "few" non-Christians in this country.

So now if I say Merry Christmas I'm being arrogant? Isn't this just the reverse side of the problem? I thought when I tell people Merry Christmas I'm being nice!

biancardi · ‎03-10-2010

@missy1 wrote:
@biancardi wrote:
@missy1 wrote:
solution: Offer their tradtional SB logo cup or a holdiay version.
why? What is so wrong with a simple red & green cup?

next thing ya know, people will demand the mermaid needs to go (as she is a pagan symbol)

Maybe people should read about this logo.

I think a lot of people already know about this logo. It is part of human myth and culture. There is no reason to take her off the cup when it is Starbucks logo - they are a seattle based company, by the waterfront. I am sure that the ships and docks were a reason why they picked a mermaid.

If you can't fix what's broken, you'll go insane ~ Max
Look, I don’t like the taste of broccoli, but it doesn’t get tastier if you call it “Broccoli!”!
You mustn't be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling. ~ Eames

SusieQ_2 · ‎03-27-2012

@NoelSeven wrote:
@ValuSkr wrote:
Ellen was poking gentle fun at folks who are outraged over the red cup. She said the old cups had snowflakes, Santa's sleigh, elves - "you know, all the things that are in the Bible." Why not laugh at yourselves; life's too short to take so seriously. And please continue to buy ED On Air products.
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Thanks! Several of us have been saying the same thing... none of those things have anything to do with Jesus.

And thank God (no pun intended) that got cleared up. I could have sworn one the twelve apostles was an elf. And seriously, isn't there a passage somewhere talking about the Jesus sled? No? Oh well, must have been some other book. You, know you read so much and after a while it all kind of melts together...like snowflakes!

Plaid Pants2 · ‎03-14-2015

@Apple Head wrote:
This "big" news story about the cups at Starbucks not being "Christmas enough" this year is ridiculous.

What do the ultra religious want, Jesus Christ on the cups?

There is a lot more things to complain about than the artwork on a cup. Not all Starbucks' customers celebrate Christmas. What would they say if the owner this year had only Hanukah cups?

I think when people can truly share the love that Christmas is supposed to be all about and be there for their fellow neighbors who are down and out or reach out and help someone or just be loving to each other, that is more important than the design on a dam@ cup!

Oy! Here we go with this again.

What about people of the Jewish faith?

Why not just say "Happy Holidays", which is inclusive, of all faiths, and of those who don't celebrate, as opposed to saying, "Merry Christmas", which is exclusive, of those who aren't Christain?

Isn't that a nicer thing to do?