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09-19-2015 07:39 PM
@Stray I thought so too. You're welcome ... and thank you Kateri!
09-19-2015 07:41 PM
09-19-2015 11:08 PM
When I see Raven Symone with her clown hair-do's every day, I just can't take that show seriously anymore.
09-19-2015 11:18 PM
@NoelSeven wrote:
@Greenhouse wrote:
@Shorty2U wrote:I stopped watching the View years ago. Having said that, I went and watched the video of Joys statement.
Joy said the (contestant) nurse was just reading her emails and she said why is she (the contestant) wearing a stethoscope?
While the comment was rude "about the contestant just reading her emails." I don't see how it is an insult to nurses everywhere? And while I agree she shouldn't have said it, I don't see the big hoopla.
So my question is (and correct me if I am wrong); Is there more? Am I missing something else she may have said? Did I watch the wrong video and it got cut off?
PS) I have heard (via the media) many more rude statements that were made by Elisabeth and Whoopie over the years.
Her exact words which we found insulting were but "why was she wearing a DOCTOR's stethoscope"....that is a basic tool of a nurse and her implicit statement was only doctors are noble or competent enough to use the instrument. In our super market, some person wears a stethoscope to take blood pressures....the tone was mocking and Condescending whether this young woman's segment is classified as talent is not the issue to offended nurses. Apparently, sponsors agreed with the nurses United movement....I mean the stupid question they asked the winner about Tom Brady certainly didn't display brain power or insight. She is quite pretty and lovely and that's what they should be judged on.
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I totally agree, it was insulting and ignorant.
How was that offensive? She didn't know any of them wear the instrument. She also didn't know what the Contestant was doing in scrubs with a stethoscope during the talent part. That's why it's important that they know what they are talking about before it becomes a hot topic. I've heard Whoopie say things that aren't even factual when she's reporting some event. I've heard Barbara get it wrong too.They certainly don't wear stethsin the clinic I go to. The blood pressure apparatus is always hanging on the wall next to the examination.table. I think people who don't like Joy read a lot into things she says that just isn't there. I agree with the person who said it was a "mountain out of a molehill."Joy apologized the next day, admitted she wasn't paying attention to what had actually taken place, and the show had a tribute to nurses by the day after the apology. I don't know what more people want....oh wait, yes I do. They want Joy to be fired. Sorry, but I just don't agree even though I don't watch the show very often.
09-19-2015 11:44 PM
As an RN, I don't want to see Joy fired.
I don't like or respect her, but I wouldn't ask that she be fired. I just don't watch her.
I pretty much always have a stethoscope with me. It is used for lots of things. It is used to take blood pressure, listen to breath sounds in the lungs, confirm endotracheal tube placement (breathing tube), listen to heart sounds, listen to bowel sounds, etc.
Other people use stethoscopes too. Nursing assistants, medical assistants, may take blood pressure. Respiratory therapists use them to listen to lungs, etc. People other than doctors use stethoscopes.
So, Joy Behar really doesn't know what she is talking about. I doubt someone as arrogant as she will learn from something like this.
I haven't watched "The View" and won't be watching in the future. So, I don't really care if Joy Behar and her ignorance remains on display.
Hyacinth ![]()
09-20-2015 01:05 AM
@Puzzle Piece wrote:Good for the Sponsors! Probably agreed that Joy was a liability because of her monsterous loud mouth and ugliness. Woof! Woof !
Male nurses need to cme out as well as the doctors and slam her for being such an ugly female.
And you're just as bad as Trump!
09-20-2015 01:26 AM
@skuggles wrote:
I don't know who this kateri is, but it's obvious she never saw the video clip, either. Joy wasn't "insulting" that contestant ..... she was questioning her choice of demonstrating her "talent".
Joy Behar has been a supporter of women and feminist causes since forever ..... and she WASN'T denigrating nurses. If nurses have an axe to grind, fine, but it's not all Joy Behar's fault.
Get a grip.
09-20-2015 01:33 AM
@NoelSeven wrote:
@sharlee wrote:OK, here's my take on the whole "talent" issue - I didn't see this particular contestant's talent demonstration, so these are just my thoughts based on what I've gathered from online sources.
In previous pageants, I have seen contestants recite poetry or give dramatic recitations - sometime in costume, sometimes not. This contestant wore her working clothes, while reading an essay (or possibly a monologue) on the subject of her profession.
First of all, it isn't everyone who can speak or read in public, and in such a way as to communicate effectively enough to move an audience.
Second, if she wrote the essay herself, she utilized her writing talent - and believe me, that's another ability not everyone has.
Therefore, if she indeed wrote her material herself, and then read it aloud to an audience of millions, and both moved and entertained said audience, I think this young woman actually demonstrated not one but two talents.
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Reading something isn't a talent. Public speaking isn't reading. You learn what you have written well enough to speak as if extemporaneously, glancing at your paper once in awhile, but not reading it.
ITA ...... Reading isn't a talent .... and this is NOT this contestant's first pageant ...... she has been through a LOT of local, regional and state beauty pageants/contests (whatever they are calling them) and all this gal could come up with is reading off a piece of paper?
All I can say is ..... Yikes!
09-20-2015 07:44 AM - edited 09-20-2015 07:53 AM
After reading these replies and some of the anger from nurses on other websites, it makes me a bit nervous to do any talking while sick and partially in a nurse's care. I might actually not know every aspect of their job and I might say something inaccurate. Will they take it as an insult? I choose my doctors but I don't get to choose my nurses. I've had some wonderful ones and a few that were very bad. It's kind of a cr@p shoot and, now that I realize how much resentment nurses CAN feel, I wonder if we should go to a system where everyone can choose ALL of the medical staff that works with them. Just a thought.
It's also clear to me that some are hearing and reading through their own filters. For example, someone responded to a previous post I wrote, saying that the discussion wasn't about teachers when, in fact, I was responding to her post in which she clearly brought up nurses v. teachers, lawyers, and the like. She didn't seem to be aware, when reading my post, of what she had actually said. Some of it is definitely my fault because I didn't know how to "quote" a post (I do now) but some of it was a perfect example of how many see/hear what they want to, whatever gives them payback of some kind. I do think that is what is happening with what Joy said, too.
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