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@NYC Susan wrote:

@FrostyBabe1 wrote:

@Lindsays Grandma wrote:

I posted a lovely thread about "The Train" and the mods poofed it, said it was religious.  I removed the word they considered religious and posted it again.   What did the mods do?  Poofed it, said it was a repeat of an old thread.  Can't win.


Like it or not, that's a violation of standards. They're pretty clear - "Do not re-post deleted messages". Edited or not, it's a no-no. 


I was just about to say the same thing.  Reposting is a clear violation of standards.  I don't have a problem if that's enforced because it's something we all agreed to when we started posting here.

 

My issue is with posts and threads that are arbitrarily deleted while others that seem to be pretty problematic are allowed to remain.  There's nothing we can do about it.  These are QVC's forums, and they can do what they want, but I find it frustrating and annoying at times.  However, something that violates standards should be deleted, and reposting does violate standards.  That's pretty clear-cut.


And yet, people are allowed to re-post threads about products that were deleted because they contained a link, once they removed the link.  That isn't just allowed sometimes, it's allowed in every case I've seen.

 

The post @Lindsays Grandma posted was "The Station" by Robert J. Hastings.  It is a piece of writing that encourages us to appreciate life each step of the way instead of trying to hurry to whatever "destination" we think will make us happy.  It mentioned a Bible verse in passing, which was easily removed.

 

It would be understandable if they deleted re-posts of threads relating to items not sold on the Q.  After all, it's not great for business if people buy their things elsewhere.  But those threads are allowed to be re-posted.

 

Deleting her thread that was reposted minus the Bible verse was obviously a personal decision on the part of the moderator.  If it was about the rules or what was best for business, all of those re-posted threads about products not sold here would get deleted...but they don't.

 

 



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I thought by removing the word they objected to that it would be okay, I was focused on that, not thinking about it being a repeat.  What is done is done and the only reason I feel bad about it is because it was a lovely piece and I wanted to share it here.


@mistriTsquirrel wrote:

@NYC Susan wrote:

@FrostyBabe1 wrote:

@Lindsays Grandma wrote:

I posted a lovely thread about "The Train" and the mods poofed it, said it was religious.  I removed the word they considered religious and posted it again.   What did the mods do?  Poofed it, said it was a repeat of an old thread.  Can't win.


Like it or not, that's a violation of standards. They're pretty clear - "Do not re-post deleted messages". Edited or not, it's a no-no. 


I was just about to say the same thing.  Reposting is a clear violation of standards.  I don't have a problem if that's enforced because it's something we all agreed to when we started posting here.

 

My issue is with posts and threads that are arbitrarily deleted while others that seem to be pretty problematic are allowed to remain.  There's nothing we can do about it.  These are QVC's forums, and they can do what they want, but I find it frustrating and annoying at times.  However, something that violates standards should be deleted, and reposting does violate standards.  That's pretty clear-cut.


And yet, people are allowed to re-post threads about products that were deleted because they contained a link, once they removed the link.  That isn't just allowed sometimes, it's allowed in every case I've seen.

 

The post @Lindsays Grandma posted was "The Station" by Robert J. Hastings.  It is a piece of writing that encourages us to appreciate life each step of the way instead of trying to hurry to whatever "destination" we think will make us happy.  It mentioned a Bible verse in passing, which was easily removed.

 

It would be understandable if they deleted re-posts of threads relating to items not sold on the Q.  After all, it's not great for business if people buy their things elsewhere.  But those threads are allowed to be re-posted.

 

Deleting her thread that was reposted minus the Bible verse was obviously a personal decision on the part of the moderator.  If it was about the rules or what was best for business, all of those re-posted threads about products not sold here would get deleted...but they don't.

 

 


 

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But it was a repost of a deleated thread, and the mods were well within their rights to shut it down, whether anybody agreed with that decision, or not.

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@Lindsays Grandma  It is a lovely piece, and it was something I found beneficial.  It's a shame that a re-post of positive, uplifting content is not permitted.  Thank you for sharing it; I'd not heard it, but it really resonated with me and was a good reminder to find something to appreciate about each day.  Heart



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But it was a repost of a deleated thread, and the mods were well within their rights to shut it down, whether anybody agreed with that decision, or not.


@Plaid Pants2  Yes, they are within their rights.  But let's not pretend that the forum rules are what's guiding them.  If the rules were at the heart of their decisions, the application wouldn't be wildly inconsistent.



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This has got to be one of the easiest forums to moderate.  QVC is a retail  site.  Community Chat mostly isn't talking about what QVC sells.  When you are retail site moderators, that has to make it a piece of cake.

 

I would imagine, once they get a certain number reporting abuse, the post goes poof.  They don't have the time, or the inclination, to figure things out.

 

Maybe putting in your post or your thread, an explanation of how you changed it to be in compliance with their rules might help.  

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The mods have, at times, removed the links but let the thread remain.  You will see the name of the mod in a little black box at the top left corner of the initial post.

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Re: Shuting down threads

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@Lindsays Grandma wrote:

I thought by removing the word they objected to that it would be okay, I was focused on that, not thinking about it being a repeat.  What is done is done and the only reason I feel bad about it is because it was a lovely piece and I wanted to share it here.


@mistriTsquirrel wrote:

@NYC Susan wrote:

@FrostyBabe1 wrote:

@Lindsays Grandma wrote:

I posted a lovely thread about "The Train" and the mods poofed it, said it was religious.  I removed the word they considered religious and posted it again.   What did the mods do?  Poofed it, said it was a repeat of an old thread.  Can't win.


Like it or not, that's a violation of standards. They're pretty clear - "Do not re-post deleted messages". Edited or not, it's a no-no. 


I was just about to say the same thing.  Reposting is a clear violation of standards.  I don't have a problem if that's enforced because it's something we all agreed to when we started posting here.

 

My issue is with posts and threads that are arbitrarily deleted while others that seem to be pretty problematic are allowed to remain.  There's nothing we can do about it.  These are QVC's forums, and they can do what they want, but I find it frustrating and annoying at times.  However, something that violates standards should be deleted, and reposting does violate standards.  That's pretty clear-cut.


And yet, people are allowed to re-post threads about products that were deleted because they contained a link, once they removed the link.  That isn't just allowed sometimes, it's allowed in every case I've seen.

 

The post @Lindsays Grandma posted was "The Station" by Robert J. Hastings.  It is a piece of writing that encourages us to appreciate life each step of the way instead of trying to hurry to whatever "destination" we think will make us happy.  It mentioned a Bible verse in passing, which was easily removed.

 

It would be understandable if they deleted re-posts of threads relating to items not sold on the Q.  After all, it's not great for business if people buy their things elsewhere.  But those threads are allowed to be re-posted.

 

Deleting her thread that was reposted minus the Bible verse was obviously a personal decision on the part of the moderator.  If it was about the rules or what was best for business, all of those re-posted threads about products not sold here would get deleted...but they don't.

 

 


 


 

The OP of the thread may be under the impression that it was only the Bible verse that made the thread against the rules, but that may not have been the case. There may have been multiple ‘religious’ comments in the thread - that the OP didn’t make and isn’t responsible for. What may get a thread removed is not just a topic or an OP; it’’s not all up to/on the OP.

 

It’s ongoing on the forums that a few posters insist on injecting religion/religiousness or politics into threads and then insist that that isn’t the case; some will just never see it, and others see it, know it and continue to do it.

 

It could well be that moderators are following the “give ‘em an inch and they’ll take a mile” philosophy, which phenomenon has been observed here many times with all forbidden topics, not just that one. There are threads that are followed by moderators simply because they have the potential to veer into “not allowed” territory and if they start to do so, are poofed. It’s the moderators and QVC who decide about the veering, not the posters. 

 

It could also be that multiple posters reported it and the moderators went with the multiple. 

 

I only glanced at the original thread OP once, read a handful of posts, and never went back to the thread or even saw that there was a second thread. My comments are based on what I’ve seen happen with other threads over the past year or so since ‘religion’ was added to the “not allowed” list.

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Nothing much has changed in the thousands of past years.  Some things end up being 'controversial', just as they were in the past.  I truly enjoy seeing travel programs such as Rick Steeves, and others.  The history behind the architecture of various buildings, etc., etc.  There were almost always situations of conflict.   So, I can understand the moderators' attempt to keep all of us feeling, more or less, fairly peaceful.   It's a job that I wouldn't want.  'Put it that way', so to speak.

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Re: Shuting down threads

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@mistriTsquirrel wrote:

@NYC Susan wrote:

@FrostyBabe1 wrote:

@Lindsays Grandma wrote:

I posted a lovely thread about "The Train" and the mods poofed it, said it was religious.  I removed the word they considered religious and posted it again.   What did the mods do?  Poofed it, said it was a repeat of an old thread.  Can't win.


Like it or not, that's a violation of standards. They're pretty clear - "Do not re-post deleted messages". Edited or not, it's a no-no. 


I was just about to say the same thing.  Reposting is a clear violation of standards.  I don't have a problem if that's enforced because it's something we all agreed to when we started posting here.

 

My issue is with posts and threads that are arbitrarily deleted while others that seem to be pretty problematic are allowed to remain.  There's nothing we can do about it.  These are QVC's forums, and they can do what they want, but I find it frustrating and annoying at times.  However, something that violates standards should be deleted, and reposting does violate standards.  That's pretty clear-cut.


And yet, people are allowed to re-post threads about products that were deleted because they contained a link, once they removed the link.  That isn't just allowed sometimes, it's allowed in every case I've seen.

 

The post @Lindsays Grandma posted was "The Station" by Robert J. Hastings.  It is a piece of writing that encourages us to appreciate life each step of the way instead of trying to hurry to whatever "destination" we think will make us happy.  It mentioned a Bible verse in passing, which was easily removed.

 

It would be understandable if they deleted re-posts of threads relating to items not sold on the Q.  After all, it's not great for business if people buy their things elsewhere.  But those threads are allowed to be re-posted.

 

Deleting her thread that was reposted minus the Bible verse was obviously a personal decision on the part of the moderator.  If it was about the rules or what was best for business, all of those re-posted threads about products not sold here would get deleted...but they don't.

 

 


I disagree.

 

Yes, mods are often arbitrary and inconsistent.  However, it's clearly a violation to re-post a previously deleted thread, and that's what she did.  I don't like the inconsistencies, but I have no problem with re-posted threads being deleted because we all know (or should know) that we're not supposed to do that. 

 

If anyone wants to try anyway, then by all means they're welcome to give it a shot.  But then they can't complain when it's deleted because we have been clearly told not to do that.  These forums belong to QVC, and they can enforce the terms any time they want.  You take a chance when you violate the terms - Sometimes you'll win, sometimes you'll lose.  It's not that big a deal.