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[serenity4ever]

On 3/7/2014 kdgn said:

On 3/7/2014 serenity4ever said:

On 3/7/2014 mgm2 said:

serenity4ever, the "problem" with her parents is, they DID NOT allow her to drink. She wanted an 18th birthday party..complete with alcohol and they said, NO. She's been caught drunk at school, drunk at her friends house (where she now resides) and other places. Go read the court documents, not just the links/articles provided.

She claimed her father was inappropriate with her and he used to drink with her. She woke up disoriented and he wanted to play beer pong. It's common for drunks to forget anything they do the night before. This could be a classic case of her father being a role model for her behavior. In addition I need more information about her parents and why they split.

What I am saying is I don't think I have the whole story and until I do, I am not going to place complete blame on Rachael. Whatever does happen though, that child will never be the same again. The parents are clearly not interested in her welfare, otherwise they would have done something about it months ago. For myself there is blame on both sides but the daughter will suffer the most.

Her charges against her parents were investigated by CPS and found to be untrue. She was called spoiled in their report.

The parents, or the father, claims the family she's living with provided her with alcohol since she was 15.

They have shown, in court documents, all of what they have attempted to do with their daughter over the years. None of it worked.

I hold no regard for CPS. I cannot tell you how many times they find nothing only to find a child harmed by their parents.

And of course the parents are going to claim they did everything to help her. What though about good ole dad's feeding her alcohol in the middle of the night? Guess CPS weren't there so it didn't happen?

[serenity4ever]

On 3/7/2014 mgm2 said:

On 3/7/2014 serenity4ever said:

On 3/7/2014 Burnsite said:

I think people should let this family work things out on their own. If she posts on Facebook, just ignore it.

Adults shouldn't go after young people for being unwise. This has been publicized by media as a generational conflict, but it's not an archetype. It's a family problem and not atypical of other families.

I will never understand how easily people accept demonization of other people, just because of the media.

We are on the same page. And it happens in many families. It just isn't in the court of public opinion.

READ the court papers and the FACTS behind this case. It's NOT about what's in the tabloids.

I read them and it is a case of he said/she said. It really is dependent upon who you believe.

[Burnsite]

The court papers are for the court proceedings. They are not intended for the general enjoyment of the public. Keep family court proceedings private, as they used to be, at least in the states where I have lived.

People making popcorn to comment on family tragedies seems to me w*cked and decadent. I realize I am not in the majority but I feel strongly that glomming on to some other family's tragedy is tacky.

[JaneMarple]

Who hasn't raised an rebellious teen and a know it all teenager? Out of my four, my youngest gave me my gray hair.

[mgm2]

On 3/7/2014 serenity4ever said:

On 3/7/2014 mgm2 said:

On 3/7/2014 serenity4ever said:

On 3/7/2014 Burnsite said:

I think people should let this family work things out on their own. If she posts on Facebook, just ignore it.

Adults shouldn't go after young people for being unwise. This has been publicized by media as a generational conflict, but it's not an archetype. It's a family problem and not atypical of other families.

I will never understand how easily people accept demonization of other people, just because of the media.

We are on the same page. And it happens in many families. It just isn't in the court of public opinion.

READ the court papers and the FACTS behind this case. It's NOT about what's in the tabloids.

I read them and it is a case of he said/she said. It really is dependent upon who you believe.

No, it's NOT a she said/they said case. The parents actually had back up for their claims against Rachel. She could say all she wanted but NO proof was ever given for her allegations.

Poor, poor Rachel...she couldn't stay away from the booze, had overnights with the boyfriend, wouldn't obey curfew, sent a nasty message to her mom, and moved out of her parents home.

[mgm2]

On 3/7/2014 Burnsite said:

The court papers are for the court proceedings. They are not intended for the general enjoyment of the public. Keep family court proceedings private, as they used to be, at least in the states where I have lived.

People making popcorn to comment on family tragedies seems to me w*cked and decadent. I realize I am not in the majority but I feel strongly that glomming on to some other family's tragedy is tacky.

We ARE discussing a popular news story and posting our VIEWPOINTS on the forum called Viewpoints. Imagine that? If you don't wish to discuss it, don't.

[Marp2]

On 3/7/2014 serenity4ever said:

I had a lot of empathy for her when I saw her being tried by the court of public opinion without all the facts in. Now, I want to know more about the drinking in her family and how dysfunctional it really was. She sounds like some of the kids I used to help during an Alanon meeting just for teens and young adults. A lot of them had no guidance on how to behave and the stories of dad and mom feeding them alcohol were often told. I think her father sounds like he was drinking and mom left. There is little known about what kind of parents they really were. The daughter's behavior is indicative of a kid who is out for blood. She wants to be vindicated because she think they stunk at being parents. I have seen it before in kids with parents that have drinking problems. She is a classic case...

The two lawyers involved in this circus ought to be disbarred. This entire scenario could have been handled with arbitration and not by tying up the justice system with this debauchery.

This girl's life will never be the same.....

THIS is a link to the court documents. You will probably find some answers in them as well as get some insight into the family dynamics.

http://cbsnewyork.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/rachel-canning.pdf

ETA: The heart of the case is that she wants to be declared unemancipated even though she is a legal adult and left home voluntarily.

[mgm2]

THANK YOU Marp!

[serenity4ever]

Thank you, Marp. I will go and read it.

[hckynut]

If this is the girl suing her parents? I will weigh in on it. Where to start! Never mind I don't have any human kids so I don't have to worry about being sued, just scratched or bitten maybe.