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On 9/16/2014 mominohio said:

I'm for dress codes, but against school "uniforms" or "campus wear" or whatever they want to call it.

It makes sense to have a dress code, because in the real world you will be faced with this in office/business/work settings. Some jobs will require a uniform that is there for employee identification, safety/health concerns, or company image. But while kids are being educated, I think we need to encourage individuality while conforming to a societal norm.

I'm very much in disagreement with what was the idea of "my day" in schooling, that the more dressed up the student was (we still had to wear dresses for girls and no jeans for boys) the better they would behave/perform. I was uncomfortable much of the day. Freezing while walking to school and on the playground with only dresses for girls accepted. While I think kids should be neat, clean, and within the bounds schools set for skirt/shorts length, exposed mid drifts, shirts with controversial wording etc. I think they should be comfortable. Not cookie cutter examples all dressed alike, with no individuality.

My experience with people who love the school uniform is that they are lazy parents. They are loving that the school is setting and enforcing the guidelines in their children's dress, and they no longer have to be the bad guy. The parent no longer has to parent, and tell a child that a particular outfit or garment is inappropriate for the school environment, and take it off.

Children have plenty of time off from school to cultivate their individuality. There is also something to be said for conformity, having a sense of belonging instead of feeling different, learning to be part of a group with common goals, finding camaraderie in sameness, learning how to work together instead of being rebellious and seeing who can outdo or out-buy each other with the latest fashion, which is a source of tremendous distraction in the schools.

Also, parents have plenty to parent about other than clothing. To say they are lazy parents because they support school uniforms is a really far-fetched conclusion.

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On 9/15/2014 brii said:
On 9/15/2014 terrier3 said:
On 9/15/2014 brii said:

My choice is uniforms.

Why aren't headbands allowed though?

Gang related? Like hoodies?

Headbands are gang related?

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I agree with the dress code..........I went to private schools, with a very strict dress code........uniforms, strict skirt length and those nuns used to walk the halls with a yard stick enforcing the "skirt length" rule.........they even dictated what type shoe we could wear and the color of the socks we wore.......underclass men had to wear white only........upper class green or white.......our jackets were also a uniform jacket........turned out it directed our focus on other things and not what we or what someone else was wearing..........................raven

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Uniforms are the way to go. They really make sense.

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I like the idea of uniforms too. It makes sense on so many levels. There’s so much peer pressure at that age to dress or look a certain way. Not everyone can afford to keep up with the latest this or that. It puts everyone on equal footing, hopefully focusing on what’s important. I think it makes it easier for the students because it gives them one less thing to worry about; and they'll know exactly what is expected.

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Lazy parents now because their kids wear a uniform?

Just when I think I've heard it all...

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I live in a cooler area, but just thinking, in very hot areas, maybe nice walking shorts and lightweight (not see-through) blouses, maybe elbow length or short sleeves? Maybe the classrooms can each have a stand up oscillating fan.......at least one per room to circulate the air. Fans are very inexpensive during the summer season. I use them for attic, kitchen, living room, etc. during unusually warm and/or stagnant, humid days.

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On 9/15/2014 jackthebear said:

Look at the slobification of dress in general, I don't think leggings are appropriate to be worn as pants at all for anyone, yet Q glorifies them as to be worn all the time, so guess where I stand on this.

But, this is simply your opinion. There's no reason that QVC or any retailer would not sell leggings, when they are very popular.

Personally, both leggings and jeans are something I shop very, very carefully for. I'm a size 8/10, but, apparently {#emotions_dlg.lol}a little hippier than is typical for the size range.

I have a couple pair of leggings that I love the fit and am happy with how they look, but, I tried on a lot that I might of done housework in, but, LOL, not gone out in public!

I see a lot of people that wear leggings well. I know some people think that anyone remotely overweight should avoid the style like the plague, but, I've also seen some larger women that have looked very nice in them. I do think fit is everything, though!

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On 9/16/2014 focksie said:
On 9/16/2014 mominohio said:

I'm for dress codes, but against school "uniforms" or "campus wear" or whatever they want to call it.

It makes sense to have a dress code, because in the real world you will be faced with this in office/business/work settings. Some jobs will require a uniform that is there for employee identification, safety/health concerns, or company image. But while kids are being educated, I think we need to encourage individuality while conforming to a societal norm.

I'm very much in disagreement with what was the idea of "my day" in schooling, that the more dressed up the student was (we still had to wear dresses for girls and no jeans for boys) the better they would behave/perform. I was uncomfortable much of the day. Freezing while walking to school and on the playground with only dresses for girls accepted. While I think kids should be neat, clean, and within the bounds schools set for skirt/shorts length, exposed mid drifts, shirts with controversial wording etc. I think they should be comfortable. Not cookie cutter examples all dressed alike, with no individuality.

My experience with people who love the school uniform is that they are lazy parents. They are loving that the school is setting and enforcing the guidelines in their children's dress, and they no longer have to be the bad guy. The parent no longer has to parent, and tell a child that a particular outfit or garment is inappropriate for the school environment, and take it off.

Children have plenty of time off from school to cultivate their individuality. There is also something to be said for conformity, having a sense of belonging instead of feeling different, learning to be part of a group with common goals, finding camaraderie in sameness, learning how to work together instead of being rebellious and seeing who can outdo or out-buy each other with the latest fashion, which is a source of tremendous distraction in the schools.

Also, parents have plenty to parent about other than clothing. To say they are lazy parents because they support school uniforms is a really far-fetched conclusion.

Uniforms also make better economic sense. Or at least they did when I was in school.

We as high school students were the ones begging for uniforms because our parents were spending a lot of money on these dress clothes that we wore to school only and then still had to buy casual clothes. Most couldn't afford to have a huge wardrobe of both so the bulk was spent on the dress clothes for school and we all hated it.

Kids have plenty of ways to express their individuality while wearing a school uniform. Not to mention, there are still plenty of other hours in the day and off days when kids aren't going to be in uniforms and parents can teach them what is appropriate attire and what isn't.

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I went to private schools and wore uniforms. My parents were far from lazy! My daughter also wore uniforms throughout - it really makes more sense and is financially prudent. chum