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[Isobel Archer]

Turns out news is now reporting that Rivera did, in fact, steal an identity to work.  He had a forged ID wih someone else's social security number.

[software]

Fake documents are big business because it's against the law to hire illegals.

If you don't have legitimate documents & you want to work, you get fake documents.

Every job I've ever worked at, I had to prove my identity & legal authorization to work.

Probably everyone working at Yarrabee Farms have fake documents.

[Isobel Archer]

Yes, sadly laws don't seem to matter much anymore.  And those who end up victims - of identity theft - or worse - are apparently now regarded as  just collateral damage.

[Lipstickdiva]

I thought the news also said that the employer didn't use E-Verify either.  I half heard as I was in another room this morning but is the employer in hot water as well?

[Isobel Archer]

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@Lipstickdiva wrote:

I thought the news also said that the employer didn't use E-Verify either.  I half heard as I was in another room this morning but is the employer in hot water as well?

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Not sure you need e-verify if someone has a social security number - as that IS the authorization to work.  However, when it's stolen.....

[Cakers3]

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@Lipstickdiva wrote:

I thought the news also said that the employer didn't use E-Verify either.  I half heard as I was in another room this morning but is the employer in hot water as well?

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@Lipstickdiva  I don't believe that is the story-the employer did verify the SS number and of course if it's stolen it's still a valid SS number.

So even if one is using another identity, the SS number is still valid and would not raise any red flags.

The only way to spot a fake number is by the first 3 digits-no "000"  or "9" as the first number and there is also no certain numbers for the 2nd and 3rd position.

[dex]

We have laws but many aren’t fully enforced it seems.My DH has been rear ended twice by people driving without a license.They just receive a ticket but are allowed to drive their vehicle away...huh?We have to pay uninsured motorist so we are essentially buying insurance for people who don’t follow the law.

[Lipstickdiva]

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@Cakers3 wrote:

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@Lipstickdiva wrote:

I thought the news also said that the employer didn't use E-Verify either.  I half heard as I was in another room this morning but is the employer in hot water as well?

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@Lipstickdiva  I don't believe that is the story-the employer did verify the SS number and of course if it's stolen it's still a valid SS number.

So even if one is using another identity, the SS number is still valid and would not raise any red flags.

The only way to spot a fake number is by the first 3 digits-no "000"  or "9" as the first number and there is also no certain numbers for the 2nd and 3rd position.

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I have been trying to find information and the article I found quoted the manager of the farm as saying the employer used the Social Security Administration's employment verification system, not E-Verify.  

[Cakers3]

From E-Verify:

E-Verify is a voluntary program. However, employers with federal contracts or subcontracts that contain the Federal Acquisition Regulation (FAR) E-Verify clause are required to enroll in E-Verify as a condition of federal contracting. Employers may also be required to participate in E-Verify if their states have legislation mandating the use of E-Verify, such as a condition of business licensing. Finally, in some instances employers may be required to participate in E-Verify as a result of a legal ruling.

So unless the employer had any conditions placed on him or really didn't call SS,  he did nothing wrong.

If he really didn't verify that SS#, he should face severe penalties.

[Drythe]

You must show a document which proves your identity (with photo) and a document which proves your right to work in this country.  Examples are social security card and a photo ID issued by a government agency, a Passport does both. Native American ID with photo, US military photo ID, Green card + regulated photo ID.or a few more.

Using E ID will tell you to whom the SS number is really issued, and to whom the license is issued.