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[silentgirl]

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@Moonchilde wrote:

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@silentgirl wrote:

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@Noel7 wrote:

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@Moonchilde wrote:

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@Noel7 wrote:

Ghost Cats are getting press lately.  Not long after the death of a beloved cat, many people report seeing a flash of the cat in the house.  Over and over, many times.

DD, DH and I are all skeptics but we've all seen our cats who've died.  DH especially surprised me saying he had, also.  Reportedly, they don't stay around forever, but we are still seeing one who died years ago.

Has anyone else experienced this?

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I haven't full-on seen my last kitty, but for 6 months after she was euthanized I could swear I heard "her" noises in my apt and would swear I saw her moving out of the corner of my eye. I would think I heard an occasional meow. But that happens to many pet owners. I chalk it up to being used to the sights and sounds of kitties and psychologically "expecting" to see and hear what we've seen and heard for so many years.

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I think that's what most experience @Moonchilde

I've seen ours run out of a room, not a clear solid, but the definite shape and her color.  I've also been in bed, very still, watching the news on TV and felt what felt like her jump up next to me.  

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We had a kitty visit the dog’s water bowl almost every night - for about a year after she died- She was just a little dark kitty form, (as you and others described) who moved quickly as though she wanted her presence known-I am here. 

About a year after she died, our 20 year old Shug (kitty) died.  Neither has returned. Was she sent to comfort us, was she sent to comfort Shug, to guide him, so he wouldn't be fearful-Was it for us all to feel comfort in our pain-Just to be reassured that there is life after death-That we will be reunited-That they were and are okay-My belief tells me yes. 

What really captivates me is;  that so many have the same experience - and still remain skeptical-do you have a feeling for what you think is occurring or why? 

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My personal feeling, @silentgirl, is that I was "seeing" her because I'd been surrounded by her noises, sights and idiosyncrasies for 20 years. She was part of the fabric of my life. My brain still  "expected" to see and hear her, I was used to seeing and hearing her, so I still did.

I don't necessarily think I actually saw "her"; it was either me seeing what I expected to see, OR it was residual psychic or electromagnetic energy, which is what I feel about many "hauntings." I, personally, don't ascribe what I experienced to any spiritual belief about a mainstream traditional afterlife.

I have, however, always felt that when I lost (died) a kitty, they "sent" me the next kitty I was "supposed" to have and I was the person that kitty needed. To me, new kitty always honored predecessor kitty; predecessor kitty was always the reason I wanted to continue to share my life with another kitty.

I hadn't thought of it until I was writing this, but without realizing it I have always thought of kitty momship in a karmic way.

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 @Moonchilde  I'm laughing at myself-This is one of the most difficult responses I've written I think.  It just feels so personal.  Forgive me, I don't intend it to be.

I guess at the root of anything I might express or ask, would always be the question I really want to ask.  So, I'll just ask it. 

We all have times of pain, loss and fear in life, for some it's our faith that comforts us, but for others, what?  What carries you through?

[Moonchilde]

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@silentgirl wrote:

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@Moonchilde wrote:

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@silentgirl wrote:

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@Noel7 wrote:

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@Moonchilde wrote:

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@Noel7 wrote:

Ghost Cats are getting press lately.  Not long after the death of a beloved cat, many people report seeing a flash of the cat in the house.  Over and over, many times.

DD, DH and I are all skeptics but we've all seen our cats who've died.  DH especially surprised me saying he had, also.  Reportedly, they don't stay around forever, but we are still seeing one who died years ago.

Has anyone else experienced this?

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I haven't full-on seen my last kitty, but for 6 months after she was euthanized I could swear I heard "her" noises in my apt and would swear I saw her moving out of the corner of my eye. I would think I heard an occasional meow. But that happens to many pet owners. I chalk it up to being used to the sights and sounds of kitties and psychologically "expecting" to see and hear what we've seen and heard for so many years.

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I think that's what most experience @Moonchilde

I've seen ours run out of a room, not a clear solid, but the definite shape and her color.  I've also been in bed, very still, watching the news on TV and felt what felt like her jump up next to me.  

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We had a kitty visit the dog’s water bowl almost every night - for about a year after she died- She was just a little dark kitty form, (as you and others described) who moved quickly as though she wanted her presence known-I am here. 

About a year after she died, our 20 year old Shug (kitty) died.  Neither has returned. Was she sent to comfort us, was she sent to comfort Shug, to guide him, so he wouldn't be fearful-Was it for us all to feel comfort in our pain-Just to be reassured that there is life after death-That we will be reunited-That they were and are okay-My belief tells me yes. 

What really captivates me is;  that so many have the same experience - and still remain skeptical-do you have a feeling for what you think is occurring or why? 

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My personal feeling, @silentgirl, is that I was "seeing" her because I'd been surrounded by her noises, sights and idiosyncrasies for 20 years. She was part of the fabric of my life. My brain still  "expected" to see and hear her, I was used to seeing and hearing her, so I still did.

I don't necessarily think I actually saw "her"; it was either me seeing what I expected to see, OR it was residual psychic or electromagnetic energy, which is what I feel about many "hauntings." I, personally, don't ascribe what I experienced to any spiritual belief about a mainstream traditional afterlife.

I have, however, always felt that when I lost (died) a kitty, they "sent" me the next kitty I was "supposed" to have and I was the person that kitty needed. To me, new kitty always honored predecessor kitty; predecessor kitty was always the reason I wanted to continue to share my life with another kitty.

I hadn't thought of it until I was writing this, but without realizing it I have always thought of kitty momship in a karmic way.

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 @Moonchilde  I'm laughing at myself-This is one of the most difficult responses I've written I think.  It just feels so personal.  Forgive me, I don't intend it to be.

I guess at the root of anything I might express or ask, would always be the question I really want to ask.  So, I'll just ask it. 

We all have times of pain, loss and fear in life, for some it's our faith that comforts us, but for others, what?  What carries you through?

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@silentgirl, I would say I just deal with whatever comes up, because I've spent my life doing that. I don't do "leaning on" anyone or anything because I depend on me. It's nice, and very welcome, to have the support of friends and family when it's there. At the times it hasn't been there I just...live my life. Life and the experiences we have living it are what we do. Sometimes it sux. Sometimes it doesn't. 

I don't depend on or make use of anything "else", whether it's to live life or make me happy. I never think well I'm miserable now, but some day far in the future I'll be someplace after I die where everything is wonderful. I think either there's a reason (lesson) I'm going through this or there isn't a reason, and life is just life. I can't "know" one way or the other and I only have faith in what I can see, touch, hear, etc. I'm not a person that "needs" anything more.

[silentgirl]

Thanks @Moonchilde 

I think the thing that triggered the question, was the kitty and your realization that kitty was like a karmic momship of sorts-I wondered if (although I read your previous posts) if you believed to some extent, that there, might be/could be, a "reincarnation" of sorts. Which is comforting within itself. 

[SisterGoldenHair]

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@Noel7 wrote:

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@ROMARY wrote:

Life a thousand years from now:  Mostly robots, poo-poo-ing just about everything we are now saying and thinking..........(Said in a humorous way)

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It's true, as @Irshgrl31201 said, all of our ancestors came out of Africa, the cradle of humanity.

Those of us who are Caucasian had ancestors who interbred with Neanderthals.

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@Noel7Our son had his DNA tested because I'm adopted and it said that he was 4% Neanderthal.

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I'm about 4% as well. That's on the higher end. As the results put it, I have more Neanderthal DNA than 96% of the (non-African, I presume) population.

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@MoonchildeI bought our two sons Neanderthal t-shirts for Christmas. They thought it was cool.

[Moonchilde]

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@silentgirl wrote:

Thanks @Moonchilde 

I think the thing that triggered the question, was the kitty and your realization that kitty was like a karmic momship of sorts-I wondered if (although I read your previous posts) if you believed to some extent, that there, might be/could be, a "reincarnation" of sorts. Which is comforting within itself. 

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Ah...if that was your basic question, then yes, I do believe we might well be here for a reason, and that it might include coming back until we learn life lessons. I'm not sure how I feel about the human reincarnating as animal thing. That's a lot to believe - but we can't know, so... ;-) As far as cats reincarnating from cat to cat...not somewhere my mind has especially gone, but why not?

[jaxs mom]

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@silentgirl wrote:

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We all have times of pain, loss and fear in life, for some it's our faith that comforts us, but for others, what?  What carries you through?

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What's the other option, give up? Love for my kids is what carried me through having cancer treatment. It was that or die. A desire to live can carry you through. 

[Moonchilde]

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@SisterGoldenHair wrote:

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@Moonchilde wrote:

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@SisterGoldenHair wrote:

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@Noel7 wrote:

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@ROMARY wrote:

Life a thousand years from now:  Mostly robots, poo-poo-ing just about everything we are now saying and thinking..........(Said in a humorous way)

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It's true, as @Irshgrl31201 said, all of our ancestors came out of Africa, the cradle of humanity.

Those of us who are Caucasian had ancestors who interbred with Neanderthals.

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@Noel7Our son had his DNA tested because I'm adopted and it said that he was 4% Neanderthal.

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I'm about 4% as well. That's on the higher end. As the results put it, I have more Neanderthal DNA than 96% of the (non-African, I presume) population.

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@MoonchildeI bought our two sons Neanderthal t-shirts for Christmas. They thought it was cool.

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That IS cool, @SisterGoldenHair!

[daisyk]

@Noel7...I have seen a ghost cat! Unfortunately it wasn't one of my own beloved cats. I've mentioned this on the boards before but here goes again- We used to own a 2 family house and we had the downstairs apartment and my sister was upstairs. One night I was hanging out upstairs at my sisters and out of the corner of my eye I saw a tabby cat come out of her bedroom and walk up the hallway. I went out in the hall and it was gone. I kind of shrugged it off like Larry Tate in Bewitched, but mentioned it to my sister who said she had seen a ghost cat up there before. The woman who had lived in the apartment before my sister had a bunch of cats and I think dogs too. Somebody obviously hadn't moved on yet. I'm pretty level headed, but I know what I saw-it was clear as day and not ghostly or filmy loooking. Just looked like a regular cat. I have some good friends who had a beloved himilayan (sp?) that they would hear meow around the house after she died.

[silentgirl]

@Moonchilde wrote:

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@silentgirl wrote:

Thanks @Moonchilde 

I think the thing that triggered the question, was the kitty and your realization that kitty was like a karmic momship of sorts-I wondered if (although I read your previous posts) if you believed to some extent, that there, might be/could be, a "reincarnation" of sorts. Which is comforting within itself. 

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Ah...if that was your basic question, then yes, I do believe we might well be here for a reason, and that it might include coming back until we learn life lessons. I'm not sure how I feel about the human reincarnating as animal thing. That's a lot to believe - but we can't know, so... ;-) As far as cats reincarnating from cat to cat...not somewhere my mind has especially gone, but why not?

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Yes, that's where I was going with that-

I guess my mind also questioned whether you felt that the "energy" of your previous kitty lived on in a sense-any sense-either away from you or continued on through your new kitty. Which lead me to think reincarnation.

Though it doesn't apply to my question; I'm not certain I believe that human energy transfers to animal energy, animal to human,  with respect to reincarnation-but it isn't something I know enough about-

[daisyk]

I do believe reincarnation is possible. I haven't had an specific feelings about it personally, but I think it's most likely. If it is possible, I like to think I'm done after this life on earth. Yes I do believe in an afterlife as well-of some kind anyway. I believe our souls go on.