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[Ladybug724]

Actually, there are two problems here. It isn't one or the other, it's both. 

You have the woman who left keys in her van, providing ample opportunity for a crime to be committed. She "left the door open", so to speak. 

Then you have the criminal who took advantage of the opportunity.

Therefore, a crime was committed.

[Pook]

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@Cakers3 wrote:

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@Pook wrote:

The problem is not the criminal who steals a vehicle not realizing a child is in there or not caring!!!  Being a parent is a huge responsitility and that child should always be the first priority no matter how stressed and how many things anyone has to do!!!  I wouldn't even leave an empty junker vehicle running!!  Common sense says that you just do not leave your child in a running vehicle alone even for a second!!!  Seems like that mother thought other things more important!!  I wonder what other unsafe things she does regarding her child!! She should face child endangerment charges and punishment should be parenting classes and counseling to learn priorities!!   

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@Pook   So crime is not a problem.  Gotcha.

I wonder how you would feel if the criminal who is not the problem stole your car and how many !!!! you would use to tell us it isn't a problem.

Such over-reaction.  Calm down.

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@Cakers3  Yes crime is a problem but not the cause in this instance!!  I am calm as this could not have happened to me.  Sure any car can be stolen but not because I did anything dumb!!  First, if you would notice by my underlined statement that I would not leave any car running unattended!   The criminal was not the issue and problem here!!  This child should not have been left alone in a running vehicle so this would not have happened if this mother had not done those 2 things!! I still stand by my post as I am commenting on that specific incident that should not have happened if that mother had any sense of responsibility!!

[Love my grandkids]

@Marp I agree my comment was out of line and I have EDITED it. You aren't the only one who took me to task and it was well deserved.

I spoke in the heat of the moment. Ever do that?  I did.

[Spurt]

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@elated wrote:

I think the problem is common sense. It seems to have skipped some people. It is sad she thought it was ok to leave the baby in the van with the motor running. People are stressed but that shouldn't cloud her judgement on your child. What if the child hadn't survived. Taking a few extra minutes to make sure our children are secure and safe takes a little more effort. Quick and fast are not always the way to go. It never ceases to amaze me what is happening in our society.

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@elated 

Totally agree, common sense and responsibility seems to be scarce these days..... Just like these "parents" that "forgot" their baby was in the car and went in to work and left the child in a hot car and the results were disastrous....BUT I bet they wouldnt forget and leave their iphone in the car...priorities ya know

[Spurt]

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@Pook wrote:

The problem is not the criminal who steals a vehicle not realizing a child is in there or not caring!!!  Being a parent is a huge responsitility and that child should always be the first priority no matter how stressed and how many things anyone has to do!!!  I wouldn't even leave an empty junker vehicle running!!  Common sense says that you just do not leave your child in a running vehicle alone even for a second!!!  Seems like that mother thought other things more important!!  I wonder what other unsafe things she does regarding her child!! She should face child endangerment charges and punishment should be parenting classes and counseling to learn priorities!!   

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@Pook 

WELL SAID!

[stevieb]

Oh for heaven's sake. You don't leave a helpless living thing in a car unattended. Period. I don't care what you're up against, what your stressors are or what you're trying to do. You just don't leave a child or an animal in a vehicle unattended. It's not about being perfect. It's about having at least half a brain. As for crime, we all know it's out there and until it's eradicated, should that ever happen, we have to behave accordingly. It was a bone-headed thing to do and both the mother and child were lucky.

[Spurt]

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@stevieb wrote:

Oh for heaven's sake. You don't leave a helpless living thing in a car unattended. Period. I don't care what you're up against, what your stressors are or what you're trying to do. You just don't leave a child or an animal in a vehicle unattended. It's not about being perfect. It's about having at least half a brain. As for crime, we all know it's out there and until it's eradicated, should that ever happen, we have to behave accordingly. I was a bone-headed thing to do and both the mother and child were lucky.

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@stevieb 

👍

In many States its a crime to even leave an animal in a car let alone leaving a child in a vehicle...

[hckynut]

I haven't heard anything about this story. Assuming this van was not left running out on a rural country road!  I have never and will ever leave any of my vehicles running, anywhere. When for some reason 1 of our vehicles has to be left outside our garage in our driveway! No keys in it and it is locked, all by habit.

We live on a 1 way in, 1 way out road. For anyone to get "out" they have to use our driveway to turn around. Either that or drive backwards on an uphill curve road for 3 blocks.

Leaving any vehicle running while not being in it, or standing next to it, is a problem just waiting to happen. Who do I blame regardless of the contents in the vehicle? The person that drove it there and left an inviting target for exactly what happened.

Preoccupied and other things to me are nothing but excuses. My vehicles are a precious commodity to me, and I treat them as such.

hckynut 

[happycat]

Regardless of what I think of the mother, this story does warm my herat, thinking of the woman who decided to drive around looking for the van, with her windows down and her radio off. 

What if she had not done that? What if it was a small, still voice that led her to drive around like that, and she had ignored it?