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[bathina]

This process disadvantages women, the elderly and the poor. Not good. Not good at all.

[sunshine45]

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@qvcaddition wrote:

Thanks

do people who come here from another country have to get one also to get benefits?  It is not making sense.  In all my 80+ years things have  gone from bad to worse.  As a U.S. citizen from birth and those that chose to be citizens , why do we have to be out through hoops  that we have a right.  Why not make him non citizens get real Id?

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@qvcaddition 

non citizens can get the REAL ID.....they  just have to provide all of the same paperwork as citizens.

The REAL ID Act establishes minimum security standards for license issuance and production and prohibits Federal agencies from accepting for certain purposes driver’s licenses and identification cards from states not meeting the Act’s minimum standards. The purposes covered by the Act are: accessing Federal facilities, entering nuclear power plants, and, boarding federally regulated commercial aircraft.

https://www.dhs.gov/real-id

[scatcat]

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@bathina wrote:
Who decided this was a good idea? Seriously. Why?

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John Kelly, the former Chief of Staff pushed this through. 

It's a solution looking for. a problem.

[bathina]

@scatcat it concerns me that the real id will become the requirement to vote.

[suzyQ3]

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@Abrowneyegirl wrote:

@suzyQ3 

Do people update their name on their SS card?  This made me laugh because I do volunteer work with seniors that involves helping them apply for benefits online as many do not use/have computers.

I can say less than 50% of the women have SS in their current names.  Some even joke that they have been "_____" married name longer than they were 'maiden name' but they never changed their cards.  Some of these women are in their 90's

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Well, the laugh is on me, I guess @Abrowneyegirl . I never thought about or had a reason to update it. It has served me quite well until now. Good thing out of this is that I now have an official copy of my marriage certificate so that my husband can't claim it never happened. :-)

[VegasBusinessWoman]

When my first husband passed away some 18 or so years ago, I had an eye-opening experience.  After 30 years of marriage and filing tax returns together and all that, I was told by the IRS and SS that they had no record of our marriage and that I needed to submit proof of that to be eligible to collect my widows' benefits.  My late husband was an attorney, so I KNOW he must have submitted that information some years back but I had no way to prove it.

The great adventure began--changing my name on my SS account (who knew you needed to do that??)  The State Department told me I had to get all my current ID documentation in one name in order to get a passport (just used my drivers license before that)  What a nightmare! 😱 While I was at it, I got my bank accounts and everything else I could think of changed around to just one name--first, middle and last, no hyphenated stuff and all that.  Need I tell you that it took a very long time to get the documentation together to do all this.😮

Fast forward to 3 years later, when I remarried.  I changed NOTHING!  DH asked me after about 4 years of marriage if I was ever going to change my name--I said NO.  The only thing that matters is that recorded marriage license, not your name.  We sent copies of it to the IRS and SS.  That's really all I plan to do unless I HAVE to change.  Every few years DH asks me about it again, but I hate the idea of going through all this BS again.

[geezerette]

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@scatcat wrote:

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@bathina wrote:
Who decided this was a good idea? Seriously. Why?

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John Kelly, the former Chief of Staff pushed this through. 

It's a solution looking for. a problem.

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From dhs.gov:

"Passed by Congress in 2005, the REAL ID Act enacted the 9/11 Commission's recommendation that the Federal Government “set standards for the issuance of sources of identification, such as driver's licenses.”

[scatcat]

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@geezerette wrote:

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@scatcat wrote:

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@bathina wrote:
Who decided this was a good idea? Seriously. Why?

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John Kelly, the former Chief of Staff pushed this through. 

It's a solution looking for. a problem.

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From dhs.gov:

"Passed by Congress in 2005, the REAL ID Act enacted the 9/11 Commission's recommendation that the Federal Government “set standards for the issuance of sources of identification, such as driver's licenses.”

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Yup. And states dragged their feet until 2017 when Kelly said "no more"

[bathina]

I can inderstand why states would drag their feet. The whole notion of this is discriminatory. Certain women, the elderly, the poor will not be able to fly or act as jurors in federal courts. Totally unfair and, IMO, enacted for a dubious reason.

[suzyQ3]

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@VegasBusinessWoman wrote:

When my first husband passed away some 18 or so years ago, I had an eye-opening experience.  After 30 years of marriage and filing tax returns together and all that, I was told by the IRS and SS that they had no record of our marriage and that I needed to submit proof of that to be eligible to collect my widows' benefits.  My late husband was an attorney, so I KNOW he must have submitted that information some years back but I had no way to prove it.

The great adventure began--changing my name on my SS account (who knew you needed to do that??)  The State Department told me I had to get all my current ID documentation in one name in order to get a passport (just used my drivers license before that)  What a nightmare! 😱 While I was at it, I got my bank accounts and everything else I could think of changed around to just one name--first, middle and last, no hyphenated stuff and all that.  Need I tell you that it took a very long time to get the documentation together to do all this.😮

Fast forward to 3 years later, when I remarried.  I changed NOTHING!  DH asked me after about 4 years of marriage if I was ever going to change my name--I said NO.  The only thing that matters is that recorded marriage license, not your name.  We sent copies of it to the IRS and SS.  That's really all I plan to do unless I HAVE to change.  Every few years DH asks me about it again, but I hate the idea of going through all this BS again.

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Exactly the reason I had to get a certified copy in order to get my Real ID. @VegasBusinessWoman