RIP Hugh Hefner - Page 22

suzyQ3 · ‎03-09-2010

@sunshine45 wrote:
thanks @stuyvesant......interesting article and history.
i had almost forgotten about barbi benton!

I didn't read the link, @sunshine45, but thought I'd add a trivial bit here: Barbi Benton was at UCLA when I was a freshman. I think she might have been a couple years ahead of me. Her connection to Hefner was at that time. I don't know whether she graduated.

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LinaL · ‎05-21-2017

Many people are focussing on the magazine only. We all possess naked bodies-- It's no big deal. The objectification went beyond pictures.

The club bunnies were treated terribly. The mansion "hosted" underage women. The mansion distributed "thigh openers", possibly to underage women. There's more.

momtochloe · ‎11-03-2013

For me, Hefner did a lot of good in terms of fighting racial discrimination and gay rights. But again for me he was on the forefront of not helping women not because he objectified them but allowed vulnerable young women to be preyed upon at his house/parties. It's well documented that many young women were not treated well at his parties and that needs to be taken into account for the overall picture.

fourpaws56 · ‎03-04-2015

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sunshine45 · ‎03-09-2010

rhonda shear remembers her friend HH......

http://wfla.com/2017/09/28/st-pete-model-business-woman-remembers-hugh-hefner/

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stuyvesant · ‎05-15-2010

NBC news posted this comment from a thought leader in the gay community:

Sarah Kate Ellis, president and CEO of national LGBTQ advocacy group GLAAD, said she is dismayed to see Hefner portrayed as an advocate of the community.

"It's alarming how media is attempting to paint Hugh Hefner as a pioneer or social justice activist, because nothing could be further from reality," she said in a statement. "Hefner was a not a visionary. He was a misogynist who built an empire on sexualizing women and mainstreaming stereotypes that caused irreparable damage to women's rights and our entire culture."

Free2be · ‎03-10-2010

I don't believe that Hefner was a mysoginist. He didn't harbor ill feelings toward women. He seemed much more trusting than suspicious of them with all the business dealings and having a bevy of them fawning over him. Men will always find ways to cope with the what can seem to them as the mystery of everything female -- good ways, evil ways, and everything in between.

Some history on how females have been treated poorly at the opposite end of the American spectrum: during the times the Puritans settled in North America some of the earliest criminal prosecutions and death sentences by hanging were against females -- for being a Quaker, for a murder committed by a delusional woman (mental illness was no excuse), for witchcraft because her patients became worse under her care. It was made unlawful for a married female to make any financial decisions. I've read that a law was attempted (and failed) to force females to wear veils but I have not yet found it in historical writing.

Maybe we can evolve into a time when respect for the totality of everything female with all rights being equal, protected, and honored, are common shared values even if our politics are different. Maybe we can honor those who choose to display their beauty however they wish, within the law of course. We can't ban males from being part of it.

In contemplating Puritanism, it baffles me that people of any intellect would want that kind of America again yet some do profess this is our country's birthright, to "take our country back" to whatever it is they imagine that to be. It was good for the white males but we have to get serious about practicing freedom without encroachments or coercions. The Handmaid's Tale is a good reminder to allow others to dance in their spot while we each do the same. I think Hefner would agree with that.

stuyvesant · ‎05-15-2010

@Free2be wrote:
I don't believe that Hefner was a mysoginist. He didn't harbor ill feelings toward women. He seemed much more trusting than suspicious of them with all the business dealings and having a bevy of them fawning over him. Men will always find ways to cope with the what can seem to them as the mystery of everything female -- good ways, evil ways, and everything in between.

Some history on how females have been treated poorly at the opposite end of the American spectrum: during the times the Puritans settled in North America some of the earliest criminal prosecutions and death sentences by hanging were against females -- for being a Quaker, for a murder committed by a delusional woman (mental illness was no excuse), for witchcraft because her patients became worse under her care. It was made unlawful for a married female to make any financial decisions. I've read that a law was attempted (and failed) to force females to wear veils but I have not yet found it in historical writing.

Maybe we can evolve into a time when respect for the totality of everything female with all rights being equal, protected, and honored, are common shared values even if our politics are different. Maybe we can honor those who choose to display their beauty however they wish, within the law of course. We can't ban males from being part of it.

In contemplating Puritanism, it baffles me that people of any intellect would want that kind of America again yet some do profess this is our country's birthright, to "take our country back" to whatever it is they imagine that to be. It was good for the white males but we have to get serious about practicing freedom without encroachments or coercions. The Handmaid's Tale is a good reminder to allow others to dance in their spot while we each do the same. I think Hefner would agree with that.

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Free2be · ‎03-10-2010

Well, there was The Grotto, where guests danced in their spot.

I will say that America was generally mysogonistic during the early years of Playboy. Women couldn't easily get a credit card on their own, the bunny costumes were brutal, women in general got ahead by using their beauty or marrying.

QueenDanceALot · ‎04-18-2013

I find the comparison of women going into prostitution with their eyes wide open to Hefner's girls doing the same kind of interesting when those doing the comparison do so to show, in part, that Hefner is just a fab kinda guy, not a sleazebag purveyor of skin.

Do we then elevate pimps to "good guy" status because the women went into the profession willingly? (assuming they did).

I don't think so.