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When I am sick I stay home plain and simple so as Mominohio said you probably spread more germs than I do. So humph!

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I love the last part....""turn off the TV""


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On 10/16/2014 mominohio said:

Here we go again, with the flu shot zealots demanding what others are to do with their bodies. If you feel the vaccines are safe, then take them, but don't fool yourself into thinking that you can control/shame/bully others into doing it too. Sick people (with flu and other common illnesses) need to stay home, and quit drugging up their kids to send them to school (when they don't register a fever, they let them in, so parents who don't want to miss work give the meds and drop them off at school).

Just because more people are afflicted by/die from flu doesn't diminish the fact that we need to pay attention to Ebola, and do what is necessary to stop it in it's tracks. It just hasn't gotten as prevalent as the flu YET.

Thank you for actually underscoring the importance of the flu vaccine. It's so true that thousands upon thousands die annually from the that year's particular virus. Thank goodness that so many do not die because we have a vaccine that can help prevent many deaths as well as complications from what can be such a serious bout of illness.

As for zealots, well, I don't know about that. But if one has ever had a loved one die or became catastrophically ill from the flu, I guess that sort of would make a person more likely to take precautions.

And the more people who do have some immunity derived from the vaccine, the fewer people will have to endure the possible consequences of the virus.

Oh, and btw, this thing about sick people staying home? Good idea. But oops:

Most healthy adults may be able to infect other people beginning 1 day before symptoms develop and up to 5 to 7 days after becoming sick. Children may pass the virus for longer than 7 days. Symptoms start 1 to 4 days after the virus enters the body. That means that you may be able to pass on the flu to someone else before you know you are sick, as well as while you are sick. Some people can be infected with the flu virus but have no symptoms. During this time, those persons may still spread the virus to others. (CDC)


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I had influenza when I was in my late teens back in the 70's....it was rough....I barely remember 1 week of my life because of the fever and delirium.

Since then the only other 2 times I've had flu like symptoms it was the 2 years I opted to have the lfu shot...coincidence?..maybe...maybe not. I'm a healthy individual ....until my doctor says it's a must have then I choose not to.....I strongly believe that healthy low risk individuals do not need the flu shot and feel for the most part we are an overmedicated society....my husband has asthma so he gets the flu shot at our doctor's recomendation.

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Hmmmm so I guess this comment is wrong.

"On average, 124 people die of the flu every year."

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On 10/16/2014 straykatz said:

I had influenza when I was in my late teens back in the 70's....it was rough....I barely remember 1 week of my life because of the fever and delirium.

Since then the only other 2 times I've had flu like symptoms it was the 2 years I opted to have the lfu shot...coincidence?..maybe...maybe not. I'm a healthy individual ....until my doctor says it's a must have then I choose not to.....I strongly believe that healthy low risk individuals do not need the flu shot and feel for the most part we are an overmedicated society....my husband has asthma so he gets the flu shot at our doctor's recomendation.

As do I.

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On 10/16/2014 Jig Saw said:

Hmmmm so I guess this comment is wrong.

"On average, 124 people die of the flu every year."

Source, please.


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From a NYTimes op ed piece:

During the 2013-2014 flu season, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, only 46 percent of Americans received vaccinations against influenza, even though it kills about 3,000 people in this country in a good year, nearly 50,000 in a bad one.

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On 10/16/2014 suzyQ3 said:
On 10/16/2014 mominohio said:

Here we go again, with the flu shot zealots demanding what others are to do with their bodies. If you feel the vaccines are safe, then take them, but don't fool yourself into thinking that you can control/shame/bully others into doing it too. Sick people (with flu and other common illnesses) need to stay home, and quit drugging up their kids to send them to school (when they don't register a fever, they let them in, so parents who don't want to miss work give the meds and drop them off at school).

Just because more people are afflicted by/die from flu doesn't diminish the fact that we need to pay attention to Ebola, and do what is necessary to stop it in it's tracks. It just hasn't gotten as prevalent as the flu YET.

Thank you for actually underscoring the importance of the flu vaccine. It's so true that thousands upon thousands die annually from the that year's particular virus. Thank goodness that so many do not die because we have a vaccine that can help prevent many deaths as well as complications from what can be such a serious bout of illness.

As for zealots, well, I don't know about that. But if one has ever had a loved one die or became catastrophically ill from the flu, I guess that sort of would make a person more likely to take precautions.

And the more people who do have some immunity derived from the vaccine, the fewer people will have to endure the possible consequences of the virus.

Oh, and btw, this thing about sick people staying home? Good idea. But oops:

Most healthy adults may be able to infect other people beginning 1 day before symptoms develop and up to 5 to 7 days after becoming sick. Children may pass the virus for longer than 7 days. Symptoms start 1 to 4 days after the virus enters the body. That means that you may be able to pass on the flu to someone else before you know you are sick, as well as while you are sick. Some people can be infected with the flu virus but have no symptoms. During this time, those persons may still spread the virus to others. (CDC)

The vaccine is mostly important to those in high risk professions (health care) or those with compromised immune systems. I continue to refuse to buy into the hype the pharma/medical profession puts out about a vaccine who's effectiveness is extremely variable based on several factors including age, general health, and the luck that it was manufactured to match the flu that presents.

And once again, if you don't get sick, like I don't with the flu, then you are no more risk to others than those of you who get your shot.

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On 10/16/2014 suzyQ3 said:
On 10/16/2014 Jig Saw said:

Hmmmm so I guess this comment is wrong.

<em> "On average, 124 people die of the flu every year."</em>

Source, please.

I don't know ask Georgie.