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I value my marriage and family quite a bit!  But hey, if I were married to Jared from Subway, heck yes I'd divorce my husband!  If my devoted and lovely husband turned out to be a cheater, or molester...sorry but "til death do us part" is out the window.

 

I know a woman whose husband molested their own daughter and she ignored it.  Absolutely ignored it and refused to acknowledge it.  She is estranged from her daughter now of course, but it makes me absolutely ill to think that this is what "till death do us part" leads some women to do...

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I dunno but death do us part doesn't mean being tethered to someone that makes you unhappy any more. Those days are long gone, thank you.........

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We all go into marriage with the intention of staying in it for life, but things happen. Today with the young people having so much debt from student loans I would insist on a prenup if I were young and marrying.The woman my son is serious about was honest enough to tell him she has a ton of student loans to pay back.

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I would never sign an agreement like that especially when I was younger. I would actually think that my husband really didn't trust me and my feelings would be hurt. Now years later I am much older and wiser. I would never marry again this way I don't have to worry about assets he can have his and I've got mine.  When you're in your 70s like me the only thing I worry about is finding a nice companion I don't need marriage.  My father got married when he was 90 years old no prenup he died within five years she got everything.  He was very wealthy. When she married him she told him no prenup and he agreed .  So I'll stay single this way I know my children are Inheriting what is theirs.

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Six years after I divorced my first husband, I received a letter from the State of Texas with the intent of withholding my Income Tax refund for back support of a child I didn't know even existed. Thankfully I was divorced long before this love child came along and who the heck knew they could go after Ex Wives for the product of an affair from your ex-husband? Well they can if the Ex husband is a bum and not working so yea I would protect myself you betcha! By the time my lawyer got done with their social services, the both of them neither got a red cent from me. Want money go to work was my answer. Never again. LOL
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I think for young, first-time marrieds, with approx. bringing like most young people the same amount to the marriage, it is unnecessary.

By the time you've experienced life and are up in age and have accumulated a wealth, I think a pre-nup is necessary. Especially when you have the wealth and children you would like to inherit. 

My brother, a Senior, lost his wife and married a widow who was l4 years younger than he. They both agreed and both wanted a pre-nup, they would share from marriage forward and before wealth would be left to their children.

Just recently, they have separated and are in the process of selling home and dividing shared wealth. They lasted about seven years. Anyone with accumulated wealth and advanced age would be foolish to not do so, in my opinion. 

You share what you gain together. No one should mind that. And it shows nothing but adult realism. Until death? Maybe 50 years ago....

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@febe1 wrote:

I think for young, first-time marrieds, with approx. bringing like most young people the same amount to the marriage, it is unnecessary.

By the time you've experienced life and are up in age and have accumulated a wealth, I think a pre-nup is necessary. Especially when you have the wealth and children you would like to inherit. 

My brother, a Senior, lost his wife and married a widow who was l4 years younger than he. They both agreed and both wanted a pre-nup, they would share from marriage forward and before wealth would be left to their children.

Just recently, they have separated and are in the process of selling home and dividing shared wealth. They lasted about seven years. Anyone with accumulated wealth and advanced age would be foolish to not do so, in my opinion. 

You share what you gain together. No one should mind that. And it shows nothing but adult realism. Until death? Maybe 50 years ago....


I would never sign a prenup that gave me nothing.  I certainly understand the need to take care of children and others, but the notion that a woman should marry a man who presents her with a document that says she gets only what they "gain together" even if that's little to nothing (no longer working, investments not doing well?) is a complete nonstarter.  I would tell him where to put his prenup.

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Just make sure the state that you live in honors a post nup agreement. My husbands mother signed one with her second husband. It was drawn up in a lawyers office. After she died, we discovered that the state does not recognize post nuptial agreements. A very expensive lesson was learned.

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@Ms X, I think most pre-nups where one partner's wealth is much larger than the other's doesn't give the less wealthy partner "nothing," but rather a stipulated amount based on the years of the marriage.

 

We had a famous case that went to the State Supreme Court. Wealthy man married much younger long-time girlfriend with a prenup. Within a few years, he made a boatload of money on the backs of the poor with his prepaid and subprime credit card business. Gazillions. Of course he cheated and mistreated and wanted a divorce according to the prenup, which was very paltry for the woman. The supremes upheld the prenup, she would have been much better off not having one and getting half of the wealth he made during their marriage. The prenup stood. Now he's quite old and has given something like $1.4B to build a hospital system, research facilities, etc etc with his name on them. He's been cited as one of the top 10 philanthropists in the nation. Says he wants to give it all away and die poor. I guess like his ex-wife is now.

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Legal financial agreements are more common (and necessary) because divorce laws and judges aren't always fair ..... and there are always sneaky relatives with a sneaky lawyer lurking around.  

 

It's not about "trust"  or lack of it .... it's about having common sense!