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Re: Other Issues as Worrisome as the Virus


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@Junebug54 wrote:

Before I get jumped on I do totally understand the severity of the virus.   But, I also think there are a lot of other serious consequences to be concerned about.   

 

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Unemployment and not being able to feed your family.     Mental health.   And very importantly lots of serious health issues that are taking a back seat to the virus.     Each and every one of these issues are very important to the person dealing with them.     I will  leave this post on that note.   Wishing good health, physical and mental to everyone.   I know what I'd like to see happen but I don't have a vote.


@Junebug54 

 

As you say, the issues below the line are consequences of COVID19. Meaning = result, outcome, effect of.

 

They are not separate entities floating about on their own, they result from our Poor Management of this virus on a National Level.

 

In my opinion, one must first of all be alive in order to benefit from the other things you mention.

 

This is NOT an either / or, all or / nothing  decision.  There are other quite sound alternatives.  We are being pitted against one or the other, as if there are no other choices, for reasons of creating divisiveness, and discord, so we will argue against one another, rather than work together to fight this.

 

 If we did all work together

more might ask “Why is there NO National Plan?”


There's no national plan because each state is different. At this point each region in each state is different. You want the feds telling the entire country what to do? After another two weeks I don't even want my part of NY under the same rules as NYC. 

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I think each state has to do what makes sense for their state, in their own situation. We can all work together, but we don’t all have to have the same guidelines.
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The decision to open is left to the states as it should be.  I think some governors have overstepped, but I am not getting to that argument here.

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@Mom2Dogs 

 

Expect to see lots of lawsuits beng filed against "certain" governors and other state, city and local officials.  Just heard that there are quite a few n the works.  Some pretty serious stuff.  Heads may roll.

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The decision to open is left to the states as it should be.  I think some governors have overstepped, but I am not getting to that argument here.


 

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@ALRATIBA I certainly hope so.  Business owers being threatened when they open THEIR business so they can support their family only to be threatened by their local government, such as yanking their license to operate, taking their liquor license, it goes on and on....and on top of it all still must pay their local taxes...with what, they have NO MONEY!  ridiculous.

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Yes, this virus has caused more mayhem to me than I could have imagined.

My folks are old, daddy has copd and congestive heart failure. A neighbor has cancer, they are raising their grandchildren. They have asked my elderly, in bad health parents to keep these two grandkids 2-3 times a week while the grandma takes grandpa to the cancer place. I feel bad for the neighbors, but all of our family is staying away from my parents. I told my mom that if daddy gets this he will die. I have been so mad, I can't even go there. The children's mom left long ago, the dad is working out of state and he needs to get his self home, and take care of his kids. My parents and I have been into it. 

 

Another friend is in the hospital, not related to covid that we know of. But he is in his 80's, and the hospital is not allowing any

visitors. And my heart is broke over that, I usually talk to him several times a week. 

 

Its almost like this virus has caused a never ending series of some sort of earthquake and we are all effected by the ripples of it. If that makes sense. 

 

And I know there are many people in worse situations than me. I am just feeling cranky and irritated tonight. 

 

 

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Just a reminder: According to the CDC, in the 2018/2019 flu season 647,000 were hospitalized and 61,200 died. The 2019/2020 season isn’t over yet. We’ve been through Spanish flu, Legionnaires disease, MRSA,SARS, Swine flu, etc,etc,etc. why is there no national plan in place? Is it because each illness is unique and a new challenge? Maybe. I’m just tired of the Monday morning quarterbacks who had no ideas at the time but are sure there to criticize after the fact. Not directed at anyone, just keep a perspective.

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The issues we are experiencing from Covid--unemployment, mental health, and other medical needs are just TEMPORARY so that we may all stay alive and recover and have a fine future.

 

We have only been in this situation nationwide for less than two months!

 

Just think what life was like for Americans (like my grandparents) during the years of the Great Depression (ten years) when there were NO modern conveniences or social supports!  

 

Just think what life was like for Americans (like my parents) during World War Two  (almost five years) when war was on everyone's mind and men were gone from their homes in battle!

 

We need to have a bit of perspective and realize many other people in this world suffer terribly daily and we Americans are pretty well off and pretty lucky.

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@Junebug54: I watch (and read) a lot of local and national news about the pandemic. I think all of the issues you raised are being discussed all throughout the day, every day.

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30 states have partially reopened for business even though this is contrary to CDC guidelines that specify 14 days of a downward number of cases before reopening. Testing remains woefully inadequate and there is little or no contact tracing of individuals who have tested positive for the virus. As a result, we may be looking at a second and much larger spike of infections, hospitalizations and deaths in the fall. We are all in this together and are doing the best that we can to save lives as well as the economy. Pretending that the coronavirus no longer exists is much worse than worrisome.

 

We can only get through this by following the advice of experts like Dr. Fauci. This virus is unique, contagious and deadly. The United Kingdom survived the Blitz during World War II, and we can survive a few months of quarantine. Every race, nationality and religion has faced possible annihilation and survived. We will not only conquer coronavirus, but based on what we've learned, we won't make the same mistakes, we'll be will be better prepared for future pandemics and we may be able to save the lives of our grandchildren when the next pandemic comes along.