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scotttie · ‎03-09-2010

On 10/3/2014 dooBdoo said:
On 10/3/2014 SoftRaindrops said:
On 10/3/2014 GrettaGarbled said:
On 10/3/2014 SoftRaindrops said:
On 10/3/2014 GrettaGarbled said:
Either religious discussions are against standards or they aren't. I can understand wanting to keep them in one place, but I'm sure if I stated a daily thread with Koranic verses, it would be deleted, even if I started it in Among Friends.

Welcome Gretta...

I agree with you. I think there has to be more specific instructions on whether religious threads are permitted on these forums. And what is the difference between Among Friends and Viewpoints? Why is Among Friends the designated place to put these types of threads when in fact religion is a Viewpoint? ${#emotions_dlg.confused1}$

Thank you, SoftRaindrops. I don't think there's anything in the rules that states specifically that religious posts are forbidden. Since the ptb here allow religious posts, I assume it isn't against the rules. As long as it's kept to Among Friends, where there is less of a chance of argument. I do wonder though, how open minded webbies would be if other, less mainstream religions were represented. Or if atheists started a thread about why they believe there's no God.

I agree with you. Anything less mainstream never seems to be discussed here.

There are a few posters here who have taken a certain amount of flack because they have stated they are atheists or agnostic. I find that wrong and have never understood it.

It's noticeable that the comments by those holding "less mainstream" beliefs are much more often removed than any of the others. I think it's a shame, maybe even disgraceful, certainly disrespectful, and another important point the moderators need to take into consideration. There should be room for everyone. If there's not room for all, they should completely prohibit the discussions of faith, religion, spirituality -- and we know they won't do that, because QVC uses it as a selling point for some of their merchandise.

Not if they are made in a respectful way.

I will use Raven as a prime example.

GrettaGarbled · ‎09-25-2014

On 10/3/2014 dooBdoo said:
On 10/3/2014 GrettaGarbled said:
On 10/3/2014 dooBdoo said:
On 10/3/2014 GrettaGarbled said: I find it counter intuitive to think people of such great faith would point fingers at someone else, when confronted with an inconvenience. That's not the kind of faith I wish to embrace.

Very thought-provoking comment, GG. Makes me think about the parable of the wisdom of Solomon. I'm constantly trying to remind myself that my actions need to match my words.

Which parable doo?

I should've said the judgment of Solomon. It's the parable about a child, and two mothers who both claimed the son was theirs.

Yes, I thought it was that one. The mother to whom the child actually belonged relinquished the child rather than see it killed. I think that's quite fitting.! And quite astute!

dooBdoo · ‎06-27-2010

On 10/3/2014 croemer said:
doo do you approve of posters who find a way to put down a posters religious behavior when they disagree with another poster? I think that is below the belt...they know exactly what they are doing. I know how bright and intuitive you are and it was very easy to pick up. This disappoints me.

croemer, Do you really think I approve of anyone being unkind to another? For any reason? If so, that's too bad but I can't change your perception. Honestly, I have no idea which post(s) you refer to, so I'm not sure of your reference.

Not directed at you, or any other poster specifically, but I'm hoping this can be a civil conversation, without it being necessary to "take sides." If not, I'll exit as gracefully as I can.

Smile

Few things reveal your intellect and your generosity of spirit—the parallel powers of your heart and mind—better than how you give feedback.~Maria Popova

Surfnturf · ‎03-09-2010

On 10/3/2014 croemer said:
On 10/3/2014 wookie said:
On 10/3/2014 GrettaGarbled said: I find it counter intuitive to think people of such great faith would point fingers at someone else, when confronted with an inconvenience. That's not the kind of faith I wish to embrace.
I was surprised, too.

Who is pointing fingers? Honestly can you point that out to me? I do not understand trying to shut someone down because they are agreeing all religious threads can remain on Among Friends.

I didn't point my finger at either one of them. I just read was what posted when it happened. I WAS surprised by GJ's reaction. That's why I remember the incident clearly.

dooBdoo · ‎06-27-2010

On 10/3/2014 scotttie said:
On 10/3/2014 dooBdoo said:
On 10/3/2014 SoftRaindrops said:
On 10/3/2014 GrettaGarbled said:
On 10/3/2014 SoftRaindrops said:
On 10/3/2014 GrettaGarbled said:
Either religious discussions are against standards or they aren't. I can understand wanting to keep them in one place, but I'm sure if I stated a daily thread with Koranic verses, it would be deleted, even if I started it in Among Friends.

Welcome Gretta...

I agree with you. I think there has to be more specific instructions on whether religious threads are permitted on these forums. And what is the difference between Among Friends and Viewpoints? Why is Among Friends the designated place to put these types of threads when in fact religion is a Viewpoint? ${#emotions_dlg.confused1}$

Thank you, SoftRaindrops. I don't think there's anything in the rules that states specifically that religious posts are forbidden. Since the ptb here allow religious posts, I assume it isn't against the rules. As long as it's kept to Among Friends, where there is less of a chance of argument. I do wonder though, how open minded webbies would be if other, less mainstream religions were represented. Or if atheists started a thread about why they believe there's no God.

I agree with you. Anything less mainstream never seems to be discussed here.

There are a few posters here who have taken a certain amount of flack because they have stated they are atheists or agnostic. I find that wrong and have never understood it.

It's noticeable that the comments by those holding "less mainstream" beliefs are much more often removed than any of the others. I think it's a shame, maybe even disgraceful, certainly disrespectful, and another important point the moderators need to take into consideration. There should be room for everyone. If there's not room for all, they should completely prohibit the discussions of faith, religion, spirituality -- and we know they won't do that, because QVC uses it as a selling point for some of their merchandise.

Not if they are made in a respectful way.

I will use Raven as a prime example.

Hi, Scotty! I hope you're right. I really do. Smile Maybe things have changed for the better. All I can attest to is what I've seen, so that's what I based my comment on.

(eta: I never know whether you like "Scotty" or "Scottie" and I constantly interchange the two! ${#emotions_dlg.blushing}$ )

Few things reveal your intellect and your generosity of spirit—the parallel powers of your heart and mind—better than how you give feedback.~Maria Popova

mstyrion 1 · ‎09-18-2014

On 10/3/2014 Clover29 said:
On 10/3/2014 brii said: Sunny's thread, I was told, was for Jewish people. Sunny didn't tell me that, btw. It was supposed to be in AF but creeped back over to VP's. Gloriajean doesn't exclude anyone from her threads either. Just my 2 cents...

Sunny's thread is more of a coffeeklatsch, whereas Gloriajean's is overtly religious. I am not excluded, in the same way that I could walk into any church and not be stopped at the door, but it's not somewhere I want to be (in the same way that I don't want to be at a bluegrass festival, just not my cup of tea).

That's how I saw it too, Clover. It's more just good wishes and non-denominational in tone. GloriaJean's is clearly christian-based, which is not something I am interested in.

I suppose I can see why QVC wanted Sunala's thread moved, even though it is not overtly religious. Perhaps they looked no further than the title.

~Enough is enough~

croemer · ‎03-10-2010

Right here doo. I did not and would not ask you to leave a thread. This was a shot at me...I believe and was unwarranted:

I find it counter intuitive to think people of such great faith would point fingers at someone else, when confronted with an inconvenience. That's not the kind of faith I wish to embrace.

Very thought-provoking comment, GG. Makes me think about the parable of the wisdom of Solomon. I'm constantly trying to remind myself that my actions need to match my words.

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scotttie · ‎03-09-2010

On 10/3/2014 mstyrion 1 said:
On 10/3/2014 Clover29 said:
On 10/3/2014 brii said: Sunny's thread, I was told, was for Jewish people. Sunny didn't tell me that, btw. It was supposed to be in AF but creeped back over to VP's. Gloriajean doesn't exclude anyone from her threads either. Just my 2 cents...

Sunny's thread is more of a coffeeklatsch, whereas Gloriajean's is overtly religious. I am not excluded, in the same way that I could walk into any church and not be stopped at the door, but it's not somewhere I want to be (in the same way that I don't want to be at a bluegrass festival, just not my cup of tea).

That's how I saw it too, Clover. It's more just good wishes and non-denominational in tone. GloriaJean's is clearly christian-based, which is not something I am interested in.

I suppose I can see why QVC wanted Sunala's thread moved, even though it is not overtly religious. Perhaps they looked no further than the title.

Sunny's thread was a Jewish thread. Her prayers in her OP's were lovely Jewish prayers. I liked them. But let's not split hairs here. I posted on her thread from time to time.

She welcomed everyone but so does GloriaJean. If you don't feel comfortable with Gloria's threads that is on you. Just as if I don't like Sunny's thread that is on me. I happen to enjoy her threads but they are definitely in the Jewish tradition.

We should all be able to get along and post together in regards to those.

croemer · ‎03-10-2010

On 10/3/2014 scotttie said:
On 10/3/2014 mstyrion 1 said:
On 10/3/2014 Clover29 said:
On 10/3/2014 brii said: Sunny's thread, I was told, was for Jewish people. Sunny didn't tell me that, btw. It was supposed to be in AF but creeped back over to VP's. Gloriajean doesn't exclude anyone from her threads either. Just my 2 cents...

Sunny's thread is more of a coffeeklatsch, whereas Gloriajean's is overtly religious. I am not excluded, in the same way that I could walk into any church and not be stopped at the door, but it's not somewhere I want to be (in the same way that I don't want to be at a bluegrass festival, just not my cup of tea).

That's how I saw it too, Clover. It's more just good wishes and non-denominational in tone. GloriaJean's is clearly christian-based, which is not something I am interested in.

I suppose I can see why QVC wanted Sunala's thread moved, even though it is not overtly religious. Perhaps they looked no further than the title.

Sunny's thread was a Jewish thread. Her prayers in her OP's were lovely Jewish prayers. I liked them. But let's not split hairs here. I posted on her thread from time to time.

She welcomed everyone but so does GloriaJean. If you don't feel comfortable with Gloria's threads that is on you. Just as if I don't like Sunny's thread that is on me. I happen to enjoy her threads but they are definitely in the Jewish tradition.

We should all be able to get along and post together in regards to those.

Very nicely said scotttie.

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GrettaGarbled · ‎09-25-2014

On 10/3/2014 croemer said:
On 10/3/2014 GrettaGarbled said: Calm down croemer. You're looking desperate.

Another shot off at me, very unkind.

You are clearly trying to pit posters against each other. It's so childish. You have been taking shots at anyone who doesn't agree with you. Calm down. It's not that important.