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[qvcaddition]

No one should have been allowed in the US from the beginning. Treat them where they were.

Howie Mandell pretty funny the other morning on a talk show. He said the silliness comes from the healthcare workers. My goodness, he said jokely, call the CDC AND THEY TELL YOU IT'S OK TO GET ON A PLANE. THE NEXT ONE CALLING, CDC SAYS DON'T TAKE A PLANE, TAKE A CRUISE SHIP INSTEAD. He was serious in a joking way, and he nailed it.

How many people could have been infected? These healthcare workers should have had some common sense. In the beginning, a Dr. came home, locked himself in his house, sent his wife away, and put himself in quarantine, sorry about spelling. We have heard nothing more about him. Most didn't have common sense. Just because they had no fever, they take planes and hope to get their business done before they came down with fever?

The people they put in harms way, and like a poster said, business closed and cost them the owners, and possibly people infected. We are not hearing many truths.

Even Mexico would not let the cruise ship dock there. We let them cross borders, but they are much smarter than the US. Hey maybe, it will keep out the illegals, the scare alone.

[kittymomNC]

On 10/26/2014 focksie said:

On 10/26/2014 kittymomNC said:

On 10/26/2014 focksie said:

We don't know what went on at the airport. Do we? We are either dealing with a traumatized and exhausted nurse who became overly dramatic or airport personnel who have had no prior experience with this protocol or who were even fearful in their reaction...or BOTH. This is all new stuff. The kinks have to be worked out. I think there needed to be more understanding on both sides.

What I remember being reported the night she arrived at the airport was that they used a thermometer that doesn't touch the person to take her temperature the first time, and it apparently showed she was running a slight temperature. Then after the hazmat ambulance, etc. had been called, they used an oral thermometer (which they said is more accurate) and it showed she didn't have a fever at all. But they still took her away under those circumstances, so I guess it's understandable that she would have been confused and maybe a little angry because she didn't know what was happening.

What I meant was we really don't know what went on at the airport in terms of the way she was treated because we are only hearing her side. I don't believe we have heard from NJ officials or airport managers yet.

My guess is that airport personnel failed to communicate the new protocol properly to her and understandably, it isn't pleasant to be kept in the dark about why you are being handled a certain way. As far as her "accommodations", again, I just don't think the airport was properly prepared in light of the new protocol having just been announced by the governors. There was little time to prep and get everything in order.

As far as how her temperature was taken is concerned, that didn't come from her. That and the other information came from sources at the airport the night she arrived. It was reported by news media on scene as they were talking to airport personnel. And I agree, they probably just didn't know how to handle it properly.

[Catitude]

On 10/26/2014 pitdakota said:

On 10/26/2014 Caravaggio said:

On 10/26/2014 NoelSeven said:

There was no food for her when she was incarcerated, and there has been no shower facilities. I can't believe you think that's humane treatment.

They gave her water and granola that is food and I am 100% fine with that. Did it occur to you they were working under the premise they did not have the test results back and were afraid of her throwing up?

Thomas Duncan reportedly vomited all over outside the apartment and was vomiting when the ambulance arrived. None of the EMTs that carried Thomas Duncan into the hospital that day contracted ebola. None of the health care workers that cared for Duncan when he arrived into the ER vomiting which would include at least one doctor, a nurse, a lab tech at a very minimum contracted ebola either.

Yet 2 nurses with protective suits did. Go figure.

[adelle38]

On 10/26/2014 terrier3 said:

On 10/26/2014 Buck-i-Nana said:

Please, anyone here who is so up in arms about Ebola and singing the praises of the mandatory quarantine - name me ONE PERSON in the U.S. who has contracted Ebola through contact who was NOT involved in providing health care to a victim. Even the people who shared a home with Mr Duncan who died of Ebola did not contract the disease.

This quarantine is nothing but a political maneuver to gain voter approval IMHO.

You are 100% correct.

Unfortunately there are many ill informed people out there - who won't listen to reason.

The quarantine is more for them, so they won't continue overreacting - than it is because of any medical concerns.

Funny, when I said it was a political maneuver you were defending the policy.

[kittymomNC]

On 10/26/2014 qvcaddition said:

No one should have been allowed in the US from the beginning. Treat them where they were.

Howie Mandell pretty funny the other morning on a talk show. He said the silliness comes from the healthcare workers. My goodness, he said jokely, call the CDC AND THEY TELL YOU IT'S OK TO GET ON A PLANE. THE NEXT ONE CALLING, CDC SAYS DON'T TAKE A PLANE, TAKE A CRUISE SHIP INSTEAD. He was serious in a joking way, and he nailed it.

How many people could have been infected? These healthcare workers should have had some common sense. In the beginning, a Dr. came home, locked himself in his house, sent his wife away, and put himself in quarantine, sorry about spelling. We have heard nothing more about him. Most didn't have common sense. Just because they had no fever, they take planes and hope to get their business done before they came down with fever?

The people they put in harms way, and like a poster said, business closed and cost them the owners, and possibly people infected. We are not hearing many truths.

Even Mexico would not let the cruise ship dock there. We let them cross borders, but they are much smarter than the US. Hey maybe, it will keep out the illegals, the scare alone.

So U. S. citizens should not have been allowed to return home under any circumstances? Instead, they should have been left in Africa where they don't have the expertise or facilities to save their lives, so just let them die?

That's not the America I live in....

[Lily1]

On 10/26/2014 qvcaddition said:

No one should have been allowed in the US from the beginning. Treat them where they were.

Howie Mandell pretty funny the other morning on a talk show. He said the silliness comes from the healthcare workers. My goodness, he said jokely, call the CDC AND THEY TELL YOU IT'S OK TO GET ON A PLANE. THE NEXT ONE CALLING, CDC SAYS DON'T TAKE A PLANE, TAKE A CRUISE SHIP INSTEAD. He was serious in a joking way, and he nailed it.

How many people could have been infected? These healthcare workers should have had some common sense. In the beginning, a Dr. came home, locked himself in his house, sent his wife away, and put himself in quarantine, sorry about spelling. We have heard nothing more about him. Most didn't have common sense. Just because they had no fever, they take planes and hope to get their business done before they came down with fever?

The people they put in harms way, and like a poster said, business closed and cost them the owners, and possibly people infected. We are not hearing many truths.

Even Mexico would not let the cruise ship dock there. We let them cross borders, but they are much smarter than the US. Hey maybe, it will keep out the illegals, the scare alone.

qvcaddition so very well said

[LilacTree]

On 10/26/2014 SmittenKitten said:

On 10/26/2014 pitdakota said:

On 10/26/2014 Caravaggio said:

On 10/26/2014 NoelSeven said:

There was no food for her when she was incarcerated, and there has been no shower facilities. I can't believe you think that's humane treatment.

They gave her water and granola that is food and I am 100% fine with that. Did it occur to you they were working under the premise they did not have the test results back and were afraid of her throwing up?

Thomas Duncan reportedly vomited all over outside the apartment and was vomiting when the ambulance arrived. None of the EMTs that carried Thomas Duncan into the hospital that day contracted ebola. None of the health care workers that cared for Duncan when he arrived into the ER vomiting which would include at least one doctor, a nurse, a lab tech at a very minimum contracted ebola either.

Yet 2 nurses with protective suits did. Go figure.

Just goes to show, as usual, what we don't know about this disease.

[kittymomNC]

On 10/26/2014 Lily1 said:

On 10/26/2014 qvcaddition said:

No one should have been allowed in the US from the beginning. Treat them where they were.

Howie Mandell pretty funny the other morning on a talk show. He said the silliness comes from the healthcare workers. My goodness, he said jokely, call the CDC AND THEY TELL YOU IT'S OK TO GET ON A PLANE. THE NEXT ONE CALLING, CDC SAYS DON'T TAKE A PLANE, TAKE A CRUISE SHIP INSTEAD. He was serious in a joking way, and he nailed it.

How many people could have been infected? These healthcare workers should have had some common sense. In the beginning, a Dr. came home, locked himself in his house, sent his wife away, and put himself in quarantine, sorry about spelling. We have heard nothing more about him. Most didn't have common sense. Just because they had no fever, they take planes and hope to get their business done before they came down with fever?

The people they put in harms way, and like a poster said, business closed and cost them the owners, and possibly people infected. We are not hearing many truths.

Even Mexico would not let the cruise ship dock there. We let them cross borders, but they are much smarter than the US. Hey maybe, it will keep out the illegals, the scare alone.

qvcaddition so very well said

I repeat: So U. S. citizens should not have been allowed to return home under any circumstances? Instead, they should have been left in Africa where they don't have the expertise or facilities to save their lives, so just let them die?

That's not the America I live in....

[JustJazzmom]

The Dallas nurses complained to their nurse union reps that their necks were exposed with the protective gowns they were wearing. They were told (not by their union reps) to put tape around their necks to cover the exposed areas. This was several days before the full protective haz mat suits became available to the staff to use in Duncan's care. Its possible that they contracted the disease with the exposed skin. We will never know.

[pitdakota]

On 10/26/2014 SmittenKitten said:

On 10/26/2014 pitdakota said:

On 10/26/2014 Caravaggio said:

On 10/26/2014 NoelSeven said:

There was no food for her when she was incarcerated, and there has been no shower facilities. I can't believe you think that's humane treatment.

They gave her water and granola that is food and I am 100% fine with that. Did it occur to you they were working under the premise they did not have the test results back and were afraid of her throwing up?

Thomas Duncan reportedly vomited all over outside the apartment and was vomiting when the ambulance arrived. None of the EMTs that carried Thomas Duncan into the hospital that day contracted ebola. None of the health care workers that cared for Duncan when he arrived into the ER vomiting which would include at least one doctor, a nurse, a lab tech at a very minimum contracted ebola either.

Yet 2 nurses with protective suits did. Go figure.

I don't have to go figure. Other nurses took care of Duncan while he was infectious, it wasn't just the 2 that contracted ebola from him. He was on dialysis and had a dialysis nurse at his bedside every day he had dialysis. There were doctors coming and going from his room. Health care workers came into his room to draw labs, respiratory therapists came in to his room to check the ventilator, draw arterial blood gases, & most probably make changes to the ventilator settings.

There were scores of health care providers that were exposed to Duncan when he was infectious. If ebola were so highly contagious all of those health care providers would have contracted ebola as well.