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@Kalli wrote:

Maybe it’s because some clothing manufacturers use vanity sizing.  So each designer has their own sizing system. 😡

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@Kalli

Or they want max profits so they skimp.....

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One thing I wonder about are manufacturers producing sizing for worldwide distribution....

For example particularly in shoe sizing---they have European sizing listed inside the shoe which is different than our sizing in the U.S. which doesnt always translate well---Im a 6 in US sizes but have to size up in this situation...........

The average American woman wears a size 16....if QVC sells their same clothing on their UK, French, German shopping channels maybe its geared to their sizing and they sell the same clothing in the U.S. as well????????????

[Kay Vee]

Denim & Co is the worst for vanity sizing I just looked at the garment size chart for a top and the bust measurement for an xl was 50.5" ? c'mon now

[chrystaltree]

That's because unlike the UK and all of Europe, we do not have standard sizing in the US.  We all know that so I don't know why we belabor the point.  Sizes are whatever a manufacturer or retailer chooses.  We all know that.  That's actually why I embraced shopping channels and before that catalogs;  size charts.  I can get my true size when I measure myself and use size charts.  I'm not the type of woman who can fiddle around in dressing rooms, trying on three different sizes.  I just don't have the patience for that.  Chicos never was a mystery to me because I'd seen that system before.  The first time I shopped in a Chicos, I asked the sales clerk to explain it.  No problem.  I can't figure out why anyone would have a problem with sizes with shopping channels.  I find my size and then I think about FIT because while I might not like it, something can be the right size but a totally wrong fit.  That's when I return things.  When I forget that because I'm focused on what I want and how the models look.    

[KKlim]

Lol- So true what you said. I very rarely buy online because of the retailers and their sizing issues. If I go into an Ann Taylor , I have to try on 4 or 5 different sizes in order to pick the proper fit.😀

[jubilant]

   I can try on many a top and if it fits my shoulders it's too tight in the bust.  If it fits my bust the shoulders look long. My body type looks terrible in dolman sleeves so they are out, too.

  Jeans have become a bit easier for me. You can type in your body type online and ask which jeans best fit your type. That is working pretty well for me.  QVC has a lot of cute clothes but I am tired of sending items back.  It would be nice if they offered "body type help".

[jlkz]

@Its Me LuLuBelle2

All the bags of sugar in our stores in the NE are 4 lbs.:  the 5 lb. bags are no more.

I have several pairs of really old winter slacks that STILL fit: size Medium.  Now, my slacks are either Large, Xlarge, 14 or 16 !  Go figure !

When I go to Chico’s, I always get size 3 and they are perfect.  As I changed over my closet to Fall / Winter last week, I noticed that all my Chico clothes were 3’s and still fit.

At 73, I have a closet that is downsized for each season....what doesn’t get worn, gets given to a niece or cousin or simply donated.  Clothes buying no longer interests me and saves money !

The biggest joke nowadays is the sizing of rolls of toilet paper:  if you have an old roll hidden in the back of a closet, use it to measure “ regular “ and then “ mega “ rolls available today.  Full time job: changing the empty rolls, lol !!!

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@chrystaltree wrote:

That's because unlike the UK and all of Europe, we do not have standard sizing in the US.  We all know that so I don't know why we belabor the point.  Sizes are whatever a manufacturer or retailer chooses.  We all know that.  That's actually why I embraced shopping channels and before that catalogs;  size charts.  I can get my true size when I measure myself and use size charts.  I'm not the type of woman who can fiddle around in dressing rooms, trying on three different sizes.  I just don't have the patience for that.  Chicos never was a mystery to me because I'd seen that system before.  The first time I shopped in a Chicos, I asked the sales clerk to explain it.  No problem.  I can't figure out why anyone would have a problem with sizes with shopping channels.  I find my size and then I think about FIT because while I might not like it, something can be the right size but a totally wrong fit.  That's when I return things.  When I forget that because I'm focused on what I want and how the models look.    

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@chrystaltree

There is sizing and there is sizing----

Yes, there are measurements to determine what you should wear....

Then there is the GARMENT SIZING-----

The problem is the body sizing chart and garment sizing dont match nor coordinate.....

For example, Im a petite medium, and the click here measurements for QVC arent even correct all the time.  For example I wanted a tunic top---the chart showed 29, but when I got it the garment actually measured 25---a big difference!  Same with chest and waist measurements on the garment click here chart OR its missing entirely.  So how can one properly size when you cant rely or trust the information.....

[JJsMom]

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@Its Me LuLuBelle2 wrote:

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 I just don't understand why the need to change "standard" sizing (although when it comes to women's clothes sizes are all over the place).  I understand that many clothing lines feel that if my 10-12 body can wear a 6-8 I'm supposed to feel better.  For me, not so much.  I just want to know that a 10 is a 10 is a 10.

I have a very good friend who is a big gal and a gorgeous, successful woman.  She's a solid 16.  She's a professional woman and suits are required attire for her.  She insists on squeezing into a 12.  We went shopping one day, she put on a beautiful size 12 suit and said, "what do you think?"  The buttons on the jacket were straining to the point her bra was showing and the zipper on the pants just wasn't getting it.  I said to her, "hang on, take off the suit, I'll be right back."  I brought the same one back to her in the size 16 she needed, said  "put it on, don't look at the size tag."  She came out and looked like a million bucks!  I told her, "you're not a skinny minnie, you never were, never will be and you're beautiful just like you are.  Your husband adores you and your curvy womanly body and you need to dress your size and not what in your head you want to be.  Buy the suit and the compliments you get will be awesome!"  Turns out everyone told her how fabulous she looked.  She now buys her true size, and knows what's on the label is not what matters.  The fit is.  We shouldn't have to be "tricked" into sizes we're not.  Let's just be like men and buy based on actual facts (neck/sleeve size; waist/length) and not buy into a fantasy.  That's my entire point.  (Oh, and btw, my beautiful size 16 friend and I are still friends!)  LuLu

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While I agree with your point, I think your story explains why companies use vanity sizing and why it's all over the place. Each brand is catering to a specific demographic, and they know how sensitive women are to weight and size. They are much more likely to make a sale if someone tries something on and thinks they are a smaller size. It'll make them feel good about themselves. I know a lot of women who will stick something back on the rack if it's in a size bigger than they percieved themselves to be because it depressed them.. It's all a mental game and marketing.

[shortbreadlover]

preaching to the choir in my case