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01-18-2023 12:23 AM
@RedTop I'm so sorry for what you are going through. You have to remember that she is not the same mother that you knew and loved. It is not her fault and it's not your fault either. Blame it on the terrible disease that she has.
Hopefully Wynonna underststands that as well.
01-18-2023 01:01 AM
@RedTop - I'm so sorry too for what you're going through. I know there are so many who go through this. I have friends who have gone through it and are going through it.
It was hard to see DH's stepmother, who was British and very particular about things. when she went in the hospital. She exhibited her first signs at the memorial service for DH's one sister. After we all got back to another of DH's sister's home she couldn't find her bag. We went to the funeral home.another group went back to the church, and someone went to their home. No one had any luck. Her bag was sitting right in the living room, and she seemed so puzzled by that. We didn't know what was coming.
When I am asked I tell others to remember they don't realize who loved ones are all of the time, or even most of the time. But their heart is still there and the love is always there. That is constant.
01-18-2023 01:03 AM
Info from research article 2018 " Epidemiology of Suicide and the Psychiatric Perspective " from National Library
"Depression is the leading cause of death of suicide worldwide "
"The majority of suicides worldwide are related to psychiatric diseases. Among those, depression, substance use, and psychosis constitute the most relevant risk factors, but also anxiety, personality-, eating- and trauma-related disorders as well as organic mental disorders significantly add to unnatural causes of death compared to the general population. "
01-18-2023 06:07 AM
Naomi clearly had mental demons going on.
01-18-2023 06:09 AM
I think her sister might just be the support she needs, and her kids and her husband. I would think they would help her understand. Luckily, she can make her own money, and she knows first-hand how her mother was. That should explain a lot for her.
01-18-2023 06:24 AM
@Mz iMac wrote:
@Ttbelle wrote:
Sane, healthy people do not commit suicide! They are suffering and feel suicide is the only way to stop the pain! Hope you never have to use the “mental illness “ card as you put it. 😞@Ttbelle Yes they do. This is just an example......
Mostly males: Going through a financial crises, will jump out of a window from a high rise building, shoot themselves in their cars, kill their families then themselves, etc. These folks were sane prior to their financial crises living the good life. I guess you can say, they just "snapped" going from wealthy to having nothing.
Just my opinion, not all of them snap. Some plan the thing out. Men it appears take a horrible way out, women do less. But NOT in this instance. So no matter what I've read, one size does not fit all.
01-18-2023 07:33 AM
@RedTop wrote:Words hurt; even when you know a persons heart, and think you understand their altered mental state, an odd statement like this leaves a very hurtful scar.
I know. My mother has advanced dementia. For the last 2 years I have dealt with her wild accusations, verbal and physical attacks on me. I have been ordered out of her house because she does not know who I am, even tho minutes earlier I was sure she knew I was her daughter since she told me she saw my husband on our porch, or she mentioned one of my girls!
In one short visit I can be multiple people to her, depending on who or what's on her mind that day. She has looked me in the eye and called me "mother", "sister", one of my dads sisters name, but she has not called me by my name for nearly a year.
Naomi Judd's struggles were deep and maybe more complex than anyone knows.
@RedTop 💔💔💔🤗
01-18-2023 07:57 AM
I believe she was trying to protect her daughter, who suffers from depression.
01-18-2023 08:00 AM - edited 01-18-2023 08:00 AM
A big cyber hug to you.
((((((((RedTop)))))))💕🙏
01-18-2023 08:50 AM
@Snowpuppy wrote:
@golding76 wrote:Why would a mother inflict a final, cruel blow on her child in that manner? There must be a history behind it, but still...
Someone had to be the adult in their relationship, and I think there may not have been one.
Why would someone do that to her child? Because she felt entitled to do so.
They had a strained relationship when they recorded together. Yet, without Wy, she would have been nothing.
Killing oneself has nothing to do with entitlement. A person has to be at the lowest of lows and not in their right mind to take their life. It's called mental illness.
Would you say someone felt entitled when they broke their leg? That's a physical ailment. The other is a psychological ailment.
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