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Re: NYC EMT's Told Not to Transport Cardiac Arrest Patients to Hospitals


@KingstonsMom wrote:

@Lipstickdiva 

 

"According to 2014 data, nearly 45 percent of out-of-hospital cardiac arrest victims survived when bystander CPR was administered.

 

The majority of Out of Hospital Cardiac Arrests (OHCA) occurs at public settings (18.8 percent), mostly homes/residences (69.5%) and nursing homes (11.7%)."

 

https://cpr.heart.org/en/resources/cpr-facts-and-stats


From the very same source: "About 90 percent of people who experience an out-of-hospital cardiac arrest die."

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Re: NYC EMT's Told Not to Transport Cardiac Arrest Patients to Hospitals


@CrazyDaisy wrote:

@reiki604 wrote:

Sadly the USNS Comfort and the beds at the Javits Convention Center under Federal regulation are for Non-Covid 19 patients only.


Why is that sad?  If I needed a hospital bed I certanily would not want to be where Covid 19 patients were.  Think is is good that a different locations is available.


While in theory it's a good idea however just because they are virus free today and get to be sent to the USNS Comfort doesn't mean once they are admitted there they will be virus free tomorrow or the next day.

 

At this point I don't know if there is any fool proof way of not cross contaminating health facilities.

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Re: NYC EMT's Told Not to Transport Cardiac Arrest Patients to Hospitals

Just think the military medical personnel has to make those decisions of which wounded to not treat and let die and only treat those to will survive.  Very sad.

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Re: NYC EMT's Told Not to Transport Cardiac Arrest Patients to Hospitals


@CelticCrafter wrote:

@CrazyDaisy wrote:

@reiki604 wrote:

Sadly the USNS Comfort and the beds at the Javits Convention Center under Federal regulation are for Non-Covid 19 patients only.


Why is that sad?  If I needed a hospital bed I certanily would not want to be where Covid 19 patients were.  Think is is good that a different locations is available.


While in theory it's a good idea however just because they are virus free today and get to be sent to the USNS Comfort doesn't mean once they are admitted there they will be virus free tomorrow or the next day.

 

At this point I don't know if there is any fool proof way of not cross contaminating health facilities.


It is better to at least try and keep people safe when they are vulnerable.

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Re: NYC EMT's Told Not to Transport Cardiac Arrest Patients to Hospitals


@Sushismom wrote:

@KingstonsMom wrote:

@Lipstickdiva 

 

"According to 2014 data, nearly 45 percent of out-of-hospital cardiac arrest victims survived when bystander CPR was administered.

 

The majority of Out of Hospital Cardiac Arrests (OHCA) occurs at public settings (18.8 percent), mostly homes/residences (69.5%) and nursing homes (11.7%)."

 

https://cpr.heart.org/en/resources/cpr-facts-and-stats


From the very same source: "About 90 percent of people who experience an out-of-hospital cardiac arrest die."


 

@Sushismom 

 

That figure is for cardiac arrest patients that do not receive CPR at the scene.

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Re: NYC EMT's Told Not to Transport Cardiac Arrest Patients to Hospitals

I just bought paddles on amazon just in case I have to give CPR to

my family.If  a member of your family needs an ambulance you mught never see them again if they go to the hospital....

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Re: NYC EMT's Told Not to Transport Cardiac Arrest Patients to Hospitals

How can they do that until they know if it's a heart attack or coronavirus?

I heard them say some have this pain that makes them think they are having a heart attack?

I guess if I get this ****** if it gets bad I will just stay home & die. Not going to the hospital when there's nothing they can do anyways.

People in Spain were lying on the floor in hospitals?

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Re: NYC EMT's Told Not to Transport Cardiac Arrest Patients to Hospitals


@CrazyDaisy wrote:

@reiki604 wrote:

Sadly the USNS Comfort and the beds at the Javits Convention Center under Federal regulation are for Non-Covid 19 patients only.


Why is that sad?  If I needed a hospital bed I certanily would not want to be where Covid 19 patients were.  Think is is good that a different locations is available.


@CrazyDaisy 

 

Me either. They already did studies on rooms patients were in that still have the virus in the air & on things in the rooms.

They keep saying it's not airborne but this makes it sound like it is.

 

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Re: NYC EMT's Told Not to Transport Cardiac Arrest Patients to Hospitals


@CrazyDaisy wrote:

@reiki604 wrote:

Sadly the USNS Comfort and the beds at the Javits Convention Center under Federal regulation are for Non-Covid 19 patients only.


Why is that sad?  If I needed a hospital bed I certanily would not want to be where Covid 19 patients were.  Think is is good that a different locations is available.


I agree.

 

I live in southwestern Michigan. 85-90% of our COVID-19 cases are in 3 counties in the metro Detroit area. It's hell over there and they're very quickly running out of hospital beds. Someone in Lansing had the boneheaded idea that they'd start shipping their overrun out to other hospitals through out the state. Yeah, that went over well. Every one of those hospitals said "absolutely not!".  Why on earth would you start willingly spreading virus patients around to parts of the state that have very few cases? That's just asking for an even bigger spread! They've all said they would take patients who do NOT have the virus if needed, which is entirely reasonable. 

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Re: NYC EMT's Told Not to Transport Cardiac Arrest Patients to Hospitals

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I can't even imagine what it's like to be a medical person who went into the field to save lives and help people and then have to make these decisions.

 

It's all just so unthinkable.