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06-18-2017 01:32 AM
I'm glad to hear the prosecutor will re-try this case. Hopefully, they seat a jury that can do their jobs! From what we know, this woman was drugged and assaulted--like the other 59 victims. Why this jury couldn't come to a verdict is beyond me. I hope we get to hear their explanations at some point.
06-18-2017 07:34 AM
@Katcat1 wrote:Cosby's wife is a sorry excuse for a woman. I hope she is not that naive to believe her husband was a saint. What he did was even sicker than just cheating. She is going to call out the Judge and District Attorney. There will be another trial and I hope he does not get off because he is a celebrity (that's really sick).
Ita! I hope he doesn't get off either!!!!!..I think he's already been judged by the public and his reputation is toast...the jury was nuts!! It reminds me of OJ! Camille?? I am shocked..who would stay with a man like that??
06-18-2017 08:43 AM
@NYC Susan wrote:
@SeaMaiden wrote:
@Perkup wrote:
@Plaid Pants2 wrote:No person asks to be raped.
No one said that these women asked to be raped. But I do say that if you choose to go to a man's room alone, accept a driink or pills or whatever, you are accepting whatever comes next. Either these women are stupid or they left their common sense at home.
@Perkup So you are saying that going to a man's room alone and having a drink or pills means you are accepting getting raped as a possible outcome... that just does not seem right to me. No man has the right to have sex with you no matter what the circumstances are...without your consent. If you are passed out, that does not give a man the right to rape you.
Exactly. That's what we should be teaching our daughters. Not that it's okay. Or - even worse - that it's the woman's fault.
And we should be teaching our sons not to rape. Our sons need to know what consent means and that if someone is impaired, they are not capable of giving consent. And that what seemed like a fun idea at a party can cause pain to both parties, prosecution and a label of sex offender or worse.
06-18-2017 11:24 AM - edited 06-18-2017 11:41 AM
@MalteseMomma wrote:Just because She says he raped her, doesn't make it true!!
Just because he is a man, a rich man at that, doesn't mean he raped her.She could be lying to make money sueing him!
She could have willingly had sex with him and now thinks she can get rich by claiming he raped her!
( I am a member of SNAP , (Survivers Network of those Abused by Priests) so I do know what rape is)
Oh, good grief .............. Clearly, you're not up to speed on the history of this suit.
Andrea is a gay woman who was NOT looking for a part in a Hollywood movie ... or whatever.
Just because he's a rich man doesn't mean she wanted to take advantage of him ... or any other man.
Cosby testified under oath that he used quaaludes to have sex with women. He made a confidential financial settlement with Andrea because he was GUILTY.
And what about the OTHER 60 women who didn't know each other but came forward with shockingly similar stories of what he had done to them? Were all of them lying, too? Use a little common sense here.
06-18-2017 12:14 PM
You are right it does take a long time for some women to come forward and it is sad that they feel they can't tell anyone what has happened. I in no way think it is right I just was giving a couple of reasons I think the jurors might have thought were reasons not to find him guilty. I of course don't know this it was just a guess on m part.
06-18-2017 12:14 PM
@Tinkrbl44 wrote:@MalteseMomma wrote:Just because She says he raped her, doesn't make it true!!
Just because he is a man, a rich man at that, doesn't mean he raped her.She could be lying to make money sueing him!
She could have willingly had sex with him and now thinks she can get rich by claiming he raped her!
( I am a member of SNAP , (Survivers Network of those Abused by Priests) so I do know what rape is)
Oh, good grief .............. Clearly, you're not up to speed on the history of this suit.
Andrea is a gay woman who was NOT looking for a part in a Hollywood movie ... or whatever.
Just because he's a rich man doesn't mean she wanted to take advantage of him ... or any other man.
Cosby testified under oath that he used quaaludes to have sex with women. He made a confidential financial settlement with Andrea because he was GUILTY.
And what about the OTHER 60 women who didn't know each other but came forward with shockingly similar stories of what he had done to them? Were all of them lying, too? Use a little common sense here.
I'm with you, @Tinkrbl44.
Some people just don't like to let facts get in the way.
06-18-2017 12:25 PM
@Kitlynn wrote:You are right it does take a long time for some women to come forward and it is sad that they feel they can't tell anyone what has happened. I in no way think it is right I just was giving a couple of reasons I think the jurors might have thought were reasons not to find him guilty. I of course don't know this it was just a guess on m part.
I think we have to remember that a lot of this happened years ago, when sexual harrassment didn't receive the attention it does now. There were no sexual harrassment sensitivity training sessions in the workplace, and lots of people didn't even realize what it was or that it was wrong. Men getting away with treating women like objects for their pleasure and amusement paved the way for crimes like these. Women didn't complain if men used sexual innuendo or called them by pet names or commented about their bodies. Now more women certainly would.
Those who spoke up were shamed. Or called liars. It was a different mentality then. Not that it's perfect now, but there's more awareness than there was. It took tremendous courage for these women to come forward even many years later. I don't know how this will all end, of course. But whatever happens, I'm very glad that they did.
06-18-2017 12:59 PM
@Plaid Pants2 wrote:
@chrystaltree wrote:I expected that....from day 1 of the trial. There was no evidence it was all "he said/she said" and there is no way in this world that 12 jurors would all vote guilty or not guilty on that. No way. I assume the prosecutor will retry the case. I hope they have some real evidence next time. If they don't, there will be another mistrial. I do wonder why the Cosby faction is celebrating and criticizing the process and the judge when they haven't won anything, they just didn't lose. It isn't over.
There are those who believe that celebrities can do no wrong.
That's what Allred is saying but I don't believe that. She has to say that because she can't admit publicly that the case was weak. My mind tells me that, there is no real evidence but my heart hopes and prays that there is more than they presented in this case. Something solid that 12 people can all agree on.
06-18-2017 01:28 PM
Somebody mentioned Beverely Johnson, doubting her naivete. If you google the Vanity Fair interview with her, you will realize the game Cosby was playing under the guise of a part he was offering her on his show. It was wickedly ingenious, and she did not see what happened coming. She did not sue him, nor did she say anything about it publicly until the other accusations appeared and the stories sounded all too familiar. Instead, she confronted him directly and never had anything else to do with him after that. The whole thing was diabolical and quite a glimpse into this man's mind. She was a divorced mother with a child and was looking to find new career avenues, had grown up idolizing Cosby...her whole family did. She's not trying to get money or attention at her age, and she wasn't some young girl when this happened. She just trusted a person whose image she only knew from TV.
06-18-2017 08:10 PM
@truffle wrote:
@RainCityWoman wrote:I already replied on the other thread, but I am still wondering about Bill's wife Camille. I think she only showed up one day of the trial. I am curious if this is mainly a marriage of convenience or if she actually supports his "innocence." Doesn't he have at least one child out of his infidelity to her? I guess the money and the lifestyle are worth it to her?
He probably has drugged her throughout their marriage....maybe she liked it, maybe she didn't know what hit her. Good grief, any woman who stayed that long with him would have to experience at least a taste of his mental illness.
Or maybe he has been a good husband to her, and she loves him very much now and through the years. She has always appeared to be a strong intelligent woman - definitely not drugged. ALSO, have you seen any creditable evidence that he has mental lillness. I know I haven't, and I am not qualified to diagnose mental issues. You make many significantly dangerous and damaging assumptions. Mrs. Cosby is not on trial.
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