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[Noel7]

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@Toppers wrote:

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@Noel7 wrote:

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@SusieQ_2 wrote:

So from what I've read here the intellectually gifted, Mensa member-type individuals are arrogant, rude, and boring snobs? I hate to break the news, but after reading some of these posts, they sure don't have the market cornered.

I've posted here for quite a while and what was insinuated about Marp was not only wrong, but downright mean and nasty. She is owed an apology, but trust me, I won't hold my breath. 

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Nothing new with that.

There are numerous people on this forum that take any and every opportunity possible to denigrate and insult intelligent people. 

They seem to have no idea what it says about them.

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Hi @Noel7,

It really hurts me and makes me sad to see these kinds of mean-spirited comments.

Where would we be in the world without these really smart and gifted individuals?

I think of people like Bill Gates and Steve Jobs and the amazing technology that they created, for example.

Look what we can all do/use now, thanks to them. 

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@Toppers

Hi Toppers, I agree.  Brilliant people are coming up with new ideas and inventions all the time that make our lives better, and I am sick of seeing people say nasty thinks about smart people and higher education.

Stanford Hospital, near where I live, has had their top scientists working on treating cancer using immunotherapy.  It's worked very well with several cancers and they have high hopes for it curing even more.

THAT is but one reason we need intelligent people and should be grateful for them.

[Campion]

Lucky you, Tokyo. I love that city. I'm going to be in the Poconos that week at a VERY boring meeting (our annual meeting for work.)

[dooBdoo]

        Yikes!  What a thread.

         I have/had 3 dear friends who are/were Mensa members (one of them passed away not long ago).  2 of them,  a married couple, not only achieved success and fulfillment in their personal lives — the wife a gifted, compassionate therapist and her husband a brilliantly talented potter and teacher, and with 2 of the kindest, loveliest kids who have gone on to make great lives for themselves — but also survived hurricane Katrina, and helped others to to so and to thrive after the fact.   The other (she’s also a therapist) is one of the most charitable and loving people I’ve  known, and after her young son was murdered she used that grief as fuel to stoke her determination to be of service to others, and her older son has followed in his mother’s footsteps…  even though (evidently, from some of these posts) he does so with the “horrible burden” of being intelligent.    Both families live simply, but abundantly in those things that matter most, like love, friends, service to others, (and common sense).

        It never even occurred to me to stereotype any of them the way I see done on this thread in some of the posts (I saw the unedited version)…  and I’d wager the people doing the stereotyping wouldn’t be supportive of such broad characterizations if they were directed at some “group” they or someone they love happen to identify with.

        I agree with the others,  I’ve never seen a thing in all my interactions with Marp that even came close to being an excuse for such snarky responses…  but, then, when is there ever an excuse for such comments?  I wonder, does it feel good, is there an adrenalin rush after doing that?    I really hope, when people have such a desire to strike out they’ll step back and think about why the topic or the person triggered such a response.   At least that way the attempt to insult, ineffective as it was, can become a chance for self-reflection.   Hurt people hurt people.

        I don’t know the source of this quote, but I think it fits.  “There are some people who always seem angry and continuously look for conflict.  Walk away; the battle they are fighting isn’t with you, it is with themselves.”

[Toppers]

This research sounds wonderful, @Noel7!

Maybe this same research can some day help those of us with autoimmune diseases, too. I sure hope so! 

[Campion]

I could tell you stories from high school about this kind of meanness. And it wasn't mostly from the students--it was from the teachers and administration. I actually dropped out and started my own high school with some like-minded friends. One too many incidents of ridicule, and I stood up, walked to the principal's office and checked out of there.

People react with envy or feel diminished out of a mistaken belief that if someone is "better" at something, it makes you worse. Well, it doesn't. Each of us does the best we can. Someone ALWAYS does better than me. It doesn't make me worse, and someone doing less well doesn't make me superior. 

[Noel7]

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@Toppers wrote:

This research sounds wonderful, @Noel7!

Maybe this same research can some day help those of us with autoimmune diseases, too. I sure hope so! 

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I hope so, too, @Toppers

I didn't know you also had an autoimmune problem.  I hope you're doing OK, my friend.

[Toppers]

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@Campion wrote:

I could tell you stories from high school about this kind of meanness. And it wasn't mostly from the students--it was from the teachers and administration. I actually dropped out and started my own high school with some like-minded friends. One too many incidents of ridicule, and I stood up, walked to the principal's office and checked out of there.

People react with envy or feel diminished out of a mistaken belief that if someone is "better" at something, it makes you worse. Well, it doesn't. Each of us does the best we can. Someone ALWAYS does better than me. It doesn't make me worse, and someone doing less well doesn't make me superior. 

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I highlighted the part of your post that I think is so very true!

I think that what you said is really important, and I think that people really seem to forget about this.

There is always going to be someone out there who is going to be better at something than us. 

In my own household, my husband is so much better at Math than I am. If I need help calculating something, I don't hesitate to ask him for help. 

We're all unique, and are all created differently. In my opinion, we should focus on being the best/best person that we can be. 

[mstyrion 1]

It's astounding to me that HH's rude post was allowed to stay and my response calling her out on it was deemed "unkind".   

I know some of you saw what I said to her and I stand by my words.  

Oh well. Only on CC could the subject of MENSA bring out the small-minded mean girls.

[MaggieMack]

I don't think there is any correlation between IQ level and being a rotten human being. Unkindness is pervasive across the entire spectrum, I'm sure. 

One one of my nephews is an extraordinarily gifted human being IQ wise. He writes articles that I cannot even understand the abstracts that summarize the articles he writes. Yet he is kind and loving and a wonderful dad and husband. He is the first to defend those not as gifted as he is, saying that others have gifts he has to struggle to attain.

Personally, I would never be interested in attending a Mensa AG meeting. If I was going to travel to a meeting, its theme would have to be something to do with spirit.

[Moonchilde]

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@mstyrion 1 wrote:

It's astounding to me that HH's rude post was allowed to stay and my response calling her out on it was deemed "unkind".   

I know some of you saw what I said to her and I stand by my words.  

Oh well. Only on CC could the subject of MENSA bring out the small-minded mean girls.

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Look at it this way - when overtly nasty-because-I-like-to-be posts remain, far more people can see and judge the author's intent, and character, than if the post was removed. So, there is some good in that ;-(