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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane missing

Was watching CNN and they showed a segment of a financial report done a few months ago where the CNN reporter was interviewing the co-pilot on his flight. It was the same co-pilot as this plane. Strange coincidence.

He was a young man in training at the time and he was so enthusiastic about flying especially the 777. So sad.

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I was wondering if it could be something like the plane that went down carrying golfer Payne Stewart?

Perhaps they experienced a sudden, severe loss of cabin pressure, so quickly that everyone lost consciousness and the plane just flew into the ocean, and hopefully, mercifully, none of them would have known what was even happening.

I say that because I was reading that out of all those people on board, not only were there no distress signals, but apparently, no one was trying to make phone calls which you would think someone might do if they knew they were going down. I also wondered why, if it was a terrorist attack, no one (yet) has tried to claim any responsibility. They usually do that immediately.

If the plane went down like that, it would make sense that there would be no distress signals, no frantic phone calls, no chunks of debris from an explosion, only the oil slick to mark the way....

Probably way off base, of course. Just something I happened to think about...
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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane missing

testing shoe bombs? underpants bombs? toothpaste bombs? something else weird like baby bottle bomb?
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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane missing

Could SEVERE turbulence bring down a plane?

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On 3/9/2014 Yuban3 said:

Could SEVERE turbulence bring down a plane?{#emotions_dlg.confused1}

Unlikely, since it still would not account for the lack of the transmittal from the transponder, which now I find out can be disabled by the pilot. So far the following causes are still being throw out there.

Pilot Disorientation

Bombing

Highjacking

Accidental Downing by Missile

Failure of both engines

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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane missing

They are reporting according to the radar the plane may have turned back. hmmmm

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From CNN website:

A "strange object" floating in the South China Sea is not debris from missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, a U.S. official told CNN on Sunday.

A U.S. reconnaissance plane "thought it saw something like debris but it was a false alarm. It was not debris," said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

[Original story published at 8:40 a.m. ET]

Malaysia Airlines Flight 370: Ticket purchase adds to mystery

As multiple mysteries swirl around the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 and around some of its passengers, a growing multinational fleet of dozens of ships and planes is pursuing a potentially promising lead.

Late Sunday afternoon, Vietnam sent a boat to investigate a "strange object" spotted by a Singaporean search plane in the area, said Hung Nguyen with the Vietnamese National Search and Rescue Committee.

Two reconnaissance aircraft from Australia have joined in the search, Malaysian acting Minister of Transportation Hishammuddin Hussein told reporters Sunday. In addition, the Chinese navy dispatched a frigate and an amphibious landing ship, according to a online post by the Chinese navy. The ships are expected to arrive on site Monday morning (Sunday night ET).

Those reinforcements join 40 ships and 22 planes already scouring the South China Sea, near the Gulf of Thailand, on Sunday for any sign of where the flight, operated by Malaysia's flagship airline, might have gone down, Malaysian authorities said.

The area in focus, about 90 miles south of Vietnam's Tho Chu Island, is where a Vietnamese search plane reportedly spotted oil slicks that stretched between 6 and 9 miles.

Malaysian authorities have not yet confirmed the report of the oil slicks, which came from Vietnam's official news agency.

Big questions far outweigh the few fragments of information that have emerged about the plane's disappearance.

What happened to the plane? Why was no distress signal issued? Who exactly was aboard?

The flight may have changed course and turned back toward Kuala Lumpur, Malaysian military officials said at a news conference Sunday.

But the pilot appears to have given no signal to authorities that he was turning around, the officials said, attributing the change of course to indications from radar data.

As the search continues, the agonizing wait goes on for relatives of the 227 passengers and 12 crew members on board the plane.

Among the passengers, there were 154 people from China or Taiwan; 38 Malaysians, and three U.S. citizens. Five of the passengers were younger than 5 years old.

Stolen passports

Two people who traveled on the missing passenger jet, using the stolen passports of an Italian and an Austrian citizen, appear to have bought their tickets together.

The tickets were bought from China Southern Airlines in Thailand's baht currency at identical prices, according to China's official e-ticket verification system Travelsky. The ticket numbers are contiguous, which indicates the tickets were issued together.

Here's where the mystery deepens: Italy and Austria have said that none of their citizens were on board the plane. And officials say the Italian and Austrian whose names were on the passenger manifest both had their passports stolen in Southeast Asia in recent years.

The two tickets booked with China Southern Airlines both start in Kuala Lumpur, flying to Beijing, and then onward to Amsterdam. The Italian passport's ticket continues to Copenhagen, the Austrian's to Frankfurt.

Authorities say they are investigating the identities of some of those on board who appear to have issues with their passports.

Passenger manifest questioned

A fuller picture of what happened may not become available until searchers find the plane and its flight data recorder.

"We have not been able to locate anything, see anything," Azharuddin Abdul Rahman, the director general of civil aviation in Malaysia, told reporters Sunday.

Confusion over who exactly was on the plane has drawn particular attention, notably the case of the Italian and Austrian passports.

The passport mystery raised concerns about the possibility of terrorism, but officials cautioned that it was still too early to arrive at any conclusions.

A U.S. intelligence official said that no link to terrorism had been discovered so far, but that authorities were still investigating.

Another possible explanation for the use of the stolen passports is illegal immigration.

There are previous cases of illegal immigrants using fake passports trying to get into Western countries. And Southeast Asia is known to be a booming market for stolen passports.

Interpol database

Malaysian authorities have been in contact with counterterrorism organizations about possible passport issues, Hussein said earlier.

He didn't specify how many potential passport issues there were, saying authorities are looking at the whole passenger manifest.

The U.S. government has been briefed on the stolen passports and reviewed the names of the passengers in question but found nothing at this point to indicate foul play, said a U.S. law enforcement official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Of the two passports in question, the Italian one had been reported stolen and was in Interpol's database, CNN law enforcement analyst Tom Fuentes said, citing sources at Interpol.

Additionally, no inquiry was made by Malaysia Airlines to determine if any passengers on the flight were traveling on stolen passports, he said. Many airlines do not check the database, he said.

Rahman, the Malaysian aviation official, declined to say whether the airline or Malaysian authorities had checked the database.

The National Transportation Safety Board announced late Saturday that a team of its investigators was en route to Asia to help with the investigation, the agency said.

Disappearing during cruise

There is a precedent for a modern jetliner to fall from the sky while "in the cruise" and lie hidden for months, according to CNN aviation correspondent Richard Quest.

On June 1, 2009, Air France Flight 447 was en route from Rio De Janeiro to Paris when communications ended suddenly from the Airbus A330, another state-of-the-art aircraft.

It took four searches over the course of nearly two years to locate the bulk of flight 447's wreckage and the majority of the 228 bodies in a mountain range deep under the ocean. It took even longer to find the cause of the disaster.

In May 2011, the aircraft's voice recorder and flight data recorder were recovered from the ocean floor after an extensive search using miniature submersible vehicles.

It was not until July 2012 that investigators published their report, which blamed the crash on a series of errors by the pilots and a failure to react effectively to technical problems.

If all those on board Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 are found to have died, it will rank as the deadliest airline disaster since November 12, 2001, when American Airlines Flight 587 crashed into a New York neighborhood, killing all 260 people on board and five more on the ground.

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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane missing

On 3/9/2014 TaxyLady said:

They are reporting according to the radar the plane may have turned back. hmmmm

I heard that too, which raises even more questions. Changing directions would still warrant a heads up to a tower in over to avoid a collision. The longer the plane remains unfound, the stranger it gets.......

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Re: Malaysia Airlines plane missing

Very strange...
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On 3/9/2014 brii said: Very strange...

Indeed.