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On 4/8/2014 beammeupscottie said:

I am totally devoted to my family. I just don't see the wrong if other people aren't as long as they raised their children well, their job is done. I don't see this as a right or wrong issue. Just people being different.

And just because you don't want to babysit your grandkids every weekend doesn't mean you aren't devoted to your family either.

That goes both ways. If your kids expect that you are going to take care of their kids whenever they want to do something, IMO they are taking advantage and aren't very respectful of you as a grandparent either.

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On 4/8/2014 Yuban3 said:

"Cat's In The Cradle"

My child arrived just the other day
He came to the world in the usual way
But there were planes to catch and bills to pay
He learned to walk while I was away
And he was talkin' 'fore I knew it, and as he grew
He'd say "I'm gonna be like you, Dad
You know I'm gonna be like you"

And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon
Little boy blue and the man on the moon
When you comin' home, Dad
I don't know when, but we'll get together then
You know we'll have a good time then

My son turned ten just the other day
He said, "Thanks for the ball, Dad, come on let's play
can you teach me to throw", I said "Not today
I got a lot to do", he said, "That's ok
And he walked away but his smile never dimmed
And said, "I'm gonna be like him, yeah
You know I'm gonna be like him"

And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon
Little boy blue and the man on the moon
When you comin' home, Dad
I don't know when, but we'll get together then
You know we'll have a good time then

Well, he came from college just the other day
So much like a man I just had to say
"Son, I'm proud of you, can you sit for a while"
He shook his head and said with a smile
"What I'd really like, Dad, is to borrow the car keys
See you later, can I have them please"

And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon
Little boy blue and the man on the moon
When you comin' home son
I don't know when, but we'll get together then, Dad
You know we'll have a good time then

I've long since retired, my son's moved away
I called him up just the other day
I said, "I'd like to see you if you don't mind"
He said, "I'd love to, Dad, if I can find the time
You see my new job's a hassle and kids have the flu
But it's sure nice talking to you, Dad
It's been sure nice talking to you"

And as I hung up the phone it occurred to me
He'd grown up just like me
My boy was just like me

And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon
Little boy blue and the man in the moon
When you comin' home son
I don't know when, but we'll get together then, Dad
We're gonna have a good time then

Wow. Powerful words

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What negative thoughts? The OP just wants to live her life her way. If there are negative thoughts...and name calling...it's coming from the DIL.
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On 4/8/2014 beammeupscottie said:

What I don't get, having kept up with this entire thread, is the amount of what I perceive as animosity towards the OP? Many people here have suggested ways the OP can mend fences with the DIL without putting down the OP's feelings. Others seem to be aghast that the OP lives her life differently than they would and have been very insulting to her.

I just don't get that.

I've been following this entire thread and have read every post and I totally agree with you. OP posted and then it was off to the races. We only know what we read here and many people just took that and have created this entire scenario and, as you posted, they do seem to be aghast that the OP doesn't live her life the way they live theirs and that she doesn't act the way they would in this situation.


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On 4/8/2014 gidgetgoeshawaiian said:
On 4/8/2014 beammeupscottie said:

What I don't get, having kept up with this entire thread, is the amount of what I perceive as animosity towards the OP? Many people here have suggested ways the OP can mend fences with the DIL without putting down the OP's feelings. Others seem to be aghast that the OP lives her life differently than they would and have been very insulting to her.

I just don't get that.

I've been following this entire thread and have read every post and I totally agree with you. OP posted and then it was off to the races. We only know what we read here and many people just took that and have created this entire scenario and, as you posted, they do seem to be aghast that the OP doesn't live her life the way they live theirs and that she doesn't act the way they would in this situation.

Why are you shocked by this? People perceive others by calling on their own set of values and in many instances when they encounter someone who seems to have such a different set of values, they have something to say about it. If a person does not want to have their lives or values scrutinized, then why put something out there that is very personal in the first place? That's like someone running for office then is upset when the media exposes their lives to the public.

Liberals are shocked at how conservatives think and vice versa. All human interactions are subject to people's opinions. I think the OP started this thread with the intention of telling everyone how awful her DIL is/was and some of us felt it was unfair. Some of us felt that being boring was not the reason for the distance ND put between herself and son's family. I read all the posts and it is my opinion that the OP married young, had children, said DH was away at sea so most of childrearing was up to her. She did it because it was her duty as a mother and in one post said she "worked for 35 years but not outside the home". Mothers who wanted to raise children didn't feel it was work but a privilege. Once her own kids grew up, she finally felt free to pursue her own life and fun without them. So I don't think that is the DIL's fault. But my thing is if she wants to live her life that way, okay fine, no skin off my back, but then don't go to a public forum and tell people about her DIL calling her a name. For all we know, the DIL could have said to ND that she thought she was "cold" and then the OP coined it Ice Queen.

The OP feels she earned the right to her social life by raising her family and now she's done. Other posters read more into it by accusing the DIL of wanting to monopolize her life when in fact I never read that anywhere. And finally, to answer those who keep stating why does the DIL want to be friends with her MIL, she should have her own friends., Well, perhaps the DIL wants this because it would make her husband, OP's son, happy. Nowhere did the poster tell us anything about her son and how he feels. When our children marry, their spouses become part of the family and you know the old saying "happy wife, happy life" so there are always other things to think about than the tidbits posters tell us when they start threads. A lot of people put thought into it because like me, they probably try to imagine how they would feel in this situation.

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Pridequeen, I just wanted to mention how much I enjoy your posts on the forums. You are always so articulate and write such interesting and thought-provoking posts...

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On 4/8/2014 croemer said:

Um..yes I do...I speak with them about it because they have complemented me on coming to see my Mother and bringing her gifts ,food etc. I love talking to them. Also as tansy said the staff now and then mention they have no one come visit. I will sit and talk to them...even have brought books and magazines. Surprisingly the love People and the Enquirer.

Go to lunch with Mom and I sit and listen to many stories.

When my mom was still alive and I was at the nursing home all the time, the ladies ALL LOVED PEOPLE MAGAZINE, they could tell you everything you could want to know about the Kardashians and who was getting a divorce, etc.

At mealtimes, since my mom was nonverbal, I would ask her tablemates about their lives, one lady used to tell us the BEST stories about her boys and all the mischief they would get into.

I wasn't sure whether it was true or whether it was just something she was saying, but she told wonderful stories.

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On 4/8/2014 serenity4ever said:

Pridequeen, I just wanted to mention how much I enjoy your posts on the forums. You are always so articulate and write such interesting and thought-provoking posts...


I'll second that.

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On 4/8/2014 BuckleBunny said:
On 4/8/2014 serenity4ever said:

Pridequeen, I just wanted to mention how much I enjoy your posts on the forums. You are always so articulate and write such interesting and thought-provoking posts...


I'll second that.

I'll third it.

Nicely stated pridequeen

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I think some are here just to argue sometimes. I'm imagining how this thread would have gone if the DIL had been the op and posted the situation (that she called her MIL an ice queen and why). I think there would be a lot of sympathy for the MIL.
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