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@tansy wrote:

Melissa Casias was featured on the most recent Crime Junkie podcast.

 

Interesting but totally non conclusive.


@tansy A lot of people seem to think that she just left on her own. Some believe that she didn't really hold any value to anyone because she was an admin and didn't have enough clearance to be of value. Not sure if she did or not. But all of those disappearances are certainly worthy of investigation. The wife of the latest man that has been gone for a while gave an interview that said he was dealing with some mental issues. She as much said he might have committed suicide in his state of mind.
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@occasionalrain wrote:

There's a difference between reporting the news, their job, and free Lance speculators.


People don’t expect a news cast. They are analyzing what’s already public and applying their experience. You may not agree with every hypothesis, but you can bet every law‑enforcement huddle runs through the same range of possibilities. It’s squad‑room theory talk.  I think it’s interesting.

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Brian Entin is doing a segment on CW on May 6th about Nancy Guthrie.

 

special—NewsNation Presents: The Nancy Guthrie Mystery—that will air on the CW on Wednesday May 6.

 

It's on at 9 PM EST.

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A police huddle is not public, not broadcast, not a money maker for those speulating. What's even worse is damaging a person's reputation by suggesting they are guilty.

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@occasionalrain wrote:

A police huddle is not public, not broadcast, not a money maker for those speulating. What's even worse is damaging a person's reputation by suggesting they are guilty.


 They can make money. No one’s forced to watch. People who don’t want it to have a choice. They’re not accusing anyone; they are asking questions. When those questions get answered, they move on. I find it informative to hear them work through different scenarios.

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@occasionalrain wrote:

A police huddle is not public, not broadcast, not a money maker for those speulating. What's even worse is damaging a person's reputation by suggesting they are guilty.




Absolutly correct!

 

I don't know which True Crime YouTubers some are watching, but there has been practically a cabal dropping one name after another, as if they've solved Nancy's abduction and tied it in a bow. People are being accused, beyond speculation. Reputations are being tarnished. Fingers have been pointed. People are being pestered, followed, filmed, and have had their property trespassed, videoed and circled about.

 

Some are not outright named, just constantly alluded to, and based on what? These tubers have no evidence. Several are just playing odds without a shred of anything substantial.

 

The list of names that have been bantered about is staggering. Literally staggering. If not named by the tuber themselves, comments are made unchecked, unmoderated, in their chats openly accusing.

 

I'll list the ones that come to mind as having been accused in Nancy's abduction. Sit back, it's quite lengthy. 

And know that I'm not accusing any of the following and feel for many of the names being dragged through the all the muck.

 

The only one I will name by name is the one person actually arrested in connection with to this case. That's Derrick Callella, the individual from California that texted a ransom demand.

 

Topping the list has from the beginning, and no need to repeat why, is Nancy's SIL, TC and his wife her daughter AC (also their son, who appears to be all of 12 or 13 has been mentioned as participating. Disgusting.) Also included in family has been Nancy's son CG. Then there is her ex-SIL MF.

 

There are two individuals who at one time played in a band with a family member, DE and WG. 

There's a young delivery driver Carlos from Rio Rico detained and a search warrant was executed. Followed by Luke, his mother M detained and search, and then his brother M is mentioned.

 

Then there's an individual Luke was arrested with last year and erroneously described as a distant relative KD and her recently released from incarceration husband WH. Also mention is ZJ a middle eastern man with a connection to Luke's Range Rover. Rumor has it he may at one time stayed in a guesthouse. There's also a housekeeper/caregiver reported to have stayed in the guesthouse. Her name escapes me.

 

One True Crime tuber discussed a wealthy middle eastern woman T. The two episodes discussing this woman have been pulled from his YouTube.

Can't forget the local sheriff CN mentioned frequently as a co-conspirator.

 

Moving on to some of the neighbors. One man living on the street across from Nancy's is CC, an individual with a criminal history for various crimes. Then there's an elderly woman who has been bitingly ridiculed, blamed, insulted, and phoned, Dr. SE. She wants the annoying lurkers out of the neighborhood so she must be hiding something, she must be involved.

 

There's the "Gem Guy" that moved out the day before or after the abduction. My guess is because the gem show ended. Then there are the two additional guys that left with him, one bald, one long hair. On to the construction workers working on the house around the corner from Nancy's.

 

One of the most recent neighbors fingered as porch guy is the transgender woman living next to Nancy's. Why, you ask? Because this particular YouTuber states that you covet what you see. What??? SMH! But she has the same build as porch guy, and didn't another tuber determine porch guy was wearing women's shoes? Reason enough to blame PS.

 

Can't forget neighbor JF, an individual often seen in front of Nancy's and seems to have his own difficulties, his own demons. So many state he must be involved. JF has often accused local attorney WN in the crime.


Speaking of demons, that opens a whole other can of worms. You got the two Goth streamers posing for a photo shoot in front of Nancy's. The female Kiki and the DJ named for a Cuban drink. Ahh, there's that dark music connection. He was DJ at a club where someone's band once played. If they're not directly involved, they must know something. 

Funny thing about these two, they announced they wanted to do a "spirit box session" at Nancy's one weekend. You could sense a "boots on the ground" tuber's excitement at this prospect. Hear that registered ring...until the backlash in his chat was so, so, so negative and the event was canceled.


On to Cypher Guy, RN. He's the one that emailed then called into a True Crime tuber's live show discussing how he knows porch guy was his brother MN jr. The cypher, the Burger Chef advertising cypher, having nothing to do with the Burger Chef killer, indicates the abduction was six years in the planning. He was able to work the cypher out because his stepfather MN sr., also a participant in the abduction, was the Zodiac Killer. So he knows his cyphers. This was all part of a Satanic ritual. But speculation is that RN was actually the one involved and not his brother. Confusing? Disjointed? Absolutely.

 

I imagine there are a few others suspects social media has mentioned that I'm missing.

 

The point being the world of social media in many arenas is an unchecked Wild West with many irresponsible and damaging comments and contributors carelessly impacting people's lives. All for the views, the likes, the subscriptions and memberships.

 

 

 

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@Etoile308 wrote:

@occasionalrain wrote:

A police huddle is not public, not broadcast, not a money maker for those speulating. What's even worse is damaging a person's reputation by suggesting they are guilty.




Absolutly correct!

 

I don't know which True Crime YouTubers some are watching, but there has been practically a cabal dropping one name after another, as if they've solved Nancy's abduction and tied it in a bow. People are being accused, beyond speculation. Reputations are being tarnished. Fingers have been pointed. People are being pestered, followed, filmed, and have had their property trespassed, videoed and circled about.

 

Some are not outright named, just constantly alluded to, and based on what? These tubers have no evidence. Several are just playing odds without a shred of anything substantial.

 

The list of names that have been bantered about is staggering. Literally staggering. If not named by the tuber themselves, comments are made unchecked, unmoderated, in their chats openly accusing.

 

I'll list the ones that come to mind as having been accused in Nancy's abduction. Sit back, it's quite lengthy. 

And know that I'm not accusing any of the following and feel for many of the names being dragged through the all the muck.

 

The only one I will name by name is the one person actually arrested in connection with to this case. That's Derrick Callella, the individual from California that texted a ransom demand.

 

Topping the list has from the beginning, and no need to repeat why, is Nancy's SIL, TC and his wife her daughter AC (also their son, who appears to be all of 12 or 13 has been mentioned as participating. Disgusting.) Also included in family has been Nancy's son CG. Then there is her ex-SIL MF.

 

There are two individuals who at one time played in a band with a family member, DE and WG. 

There's a young delivery driver Carlos from Rio Rico detained and a search warrant was executed. Followed by Luke, his mother M detained and search, and then his brother M is mentioned.

 

Then there's an individual Luke was arrested with last year and erroneously described as a distant relative KD and her recently released from incarceration husband WH. Also mention is ZJ a middle eastern man with a connection to Luke's Range Rover. Rumor has it he may at one time stayed in a guesthouse. There's also a housekeeper/caregiver reported to have stayed in the guesthouse. Her name escapes me.

 

One True Crime tuber discussed a wealthy middle eastern woman T. The two episodes discussing this woman have been pulled from his YouTube.

Can't forget the local sheriff CN mentioned frequently as a co-conspirator.

 

Moving on to some of the neighbors. One man living on the street across from Nancy's is CC, an individual with a criminal history for various crimes. Then there's an elderly woman who has been bitingly ridiculed, blamed, insulted, and phoned, Dr. SE. She wants the annoying lurkers out of the neighborhood so she must be hiding something, she must be involved.

 

There's the "Gem Guy" that moved out the day before or after the abduction. My guess is because the gem show ended. Then there are the two additional guys that left with him, one bald, one long hair. On to the construction workers working on the house around the corner from Nancy's.

 

One of the most recent neighbors fingered as porch guy is the transgender woman living next to Nancy's. Why, you ask? Because this particular YouTuber states that you covet what you see. What??? SMH! But she has the same build as porch guy, and didn't another tuber determine porch guy was wearing women's shoes? Reason enough to blame PS.

 

Can't forget neighbor JF, an individual often seen in front of Nancy's and seems to have his own difficulties, his own demons. So many state he must be involved. JF has often accused local attorney WN in the crime.


Speaking of demons, that opens a whole other can of worms. You got the two Goth streamers posing for a photo shoot in front of Nancy's. The female Kiki and the DJ named for a Cuban drink. Ahh, there's that dark music connection. He was DJ at a club where someone's band once played. If they're not directly involved, they must know something. 

Funny thing about these two, they announced they wanted to do a "spirit box session" at Nancy's one weekend. You could sense a "boots on the ground" tuber's excitement at this prospect. Hear that registered ring...until the backlash in his chat was so, so, so negative and the event was canceled.


On to Cypher Guy, RN. He's the one that emailed then called into a True Crime tuber's live show discussing how he knows porch guy was his brother MN jr. The cypher, the Burger Chef advertising cypher, having nothing to do with the Burger Chef killer, indicates the abduction was six years in the planning. He was able to work the cypher out because his stepfather MN sr., also a participant in the abduction, was the Zodiac Killer. So he knows his cyphers. This was all part of a Satanic ritual. But speculation is that RN was actually the one involved and not his brother. Confusing? Disjointed? Absolutely.

 

I imagine there are a few others suspects social media has mentioned that I'm missing.

 

The point being the world of social media in many arenas is an unchecked Wild West with many irresponsible and damaging comments and contributors carelessly impacting people's lives. All for the views, the likes, the subscriptions and memberships.

 

 

 


I think you’re mixing two very different things, the cesspool of social‑media speculation and the YouTube channels that are doing straightforward commentary. It’s clear you don’t support those channels, and that’s your prerogative.

 

I can take in information, weigh it, and decide for myself whether something is credible. I’m not swayed by random commenters or by creators who push rumors. But I’m also not going to lump every channel into the same category as the ones fueling chaos.

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@Etoile308 I agree with you and that’s why I’m disgusted with all the speculation and accusations. Don’t forget the elderly ladies who Nancy would meet with to watch the services. Someone said they should be looked at. Everyone is a suspect according to some and I have become very selective who I watch.
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Good thing about social media, you don't have to read or watch it.