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[manny2]

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@JeanLouiseFinch wrote:

Or it wasn't a kidnapping but an intentional hit job and there was no need to take medication or anything else.

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I agree @JeanLouiseFinch A masked man on the porch, disabling cameras, moving with purpose, and creating misdirection is not the same person who later sends an emotional apology note talking about poor health and “going to be with God.” That doesn’t match any real‑world pattern of a financially motivated kidnapping.

If this was a legitimate ransom situation, the family would have been contacted immediately, especially after publicly saying they would pay anything. Even if the worst had already happened, financially motivated offenders still try to get the money.

And of course, Savannah thought the notes were real. She needed to believe there was some path to getting her mother back. That’s a daughter’s hope, not evidence of authenticity.

So no, I didn’t believe for one minute that those notes were real. The style, the timing, and the behavior do not fit together. Whatever happened here, it wasn’t a ransom kidnapping.

[RescueLover]

I listened to a PI who investigates missing persons cases only. He’s retired from LE and a Marine. And he traveled from Florida to Tuscan this week looking for Nancy.


He said if the perp lived far away most likely he would try to get rid of Nancy 9-10 miles from her home. He wouldn’t take the chance of driving too far with her.

And If he lived in the Tuscan area he would leave her closer to him within a 20 mile radius.


I found it strange when he said that he will most likely go back to where he left her, but stay a distance from the actual spot.


And he said missing persons bodies are usually left no more than 30 yards off the road.


He’s solved at least 40 Missing person's cases.

[manny2]

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@RescueLover wrote:


I listened to a PI who investigates missing persons cases only. He’s retired from LE and a Marine. And he traveled from Florida to Tuscan this week looking for Nancy.


He said if the perp lived far away most likely he would try to get rid of Nancy 9-10 miles from her home. He wouldn’t take the chance of driving too far with her.

And If he lived in the Tuscan area he would leave her closer to him within a 20 mile radius.


I found it strange when he said that he will most likely go back to where he left her, but stay a distance from the actual spot.


And he said missing persons bodies are usually left no more than 30 yards off the road.


He’s solved at least 40 Missing person's cases.

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There is a reason investigators talk about patterns. Human behavior is rarely random. Under pressure, people usually rely on familiar habits and predictable choices. It doesn’t mean every case is the same, but patterns help explain why certain actions show up repeatedly. @RescueLover 

[nambee]

I watched an interview last night that Brain Entin on NewsNation did with a whistleblower from local LE. The whistleblower was heavily disguised both face and voice.

He described how bad local LE botched the initial investigation. First LE on the scene had no previous homicide experience and continued to treat it as an elder wander situation for the crucial first few days. This, obviously, seriously hampered the investigation.

And not handing case over to the FBI was another huge mistake both from gathering evidence and messaging to kidnappers and public.

As I think everyone already knows, lots of problems with Nanos and the police department there. 

Feel so sorry for Nancy and Guthrie family that this investigation was so botched from the beginning. I'm still hoping that this is eventually solved so they can have some closure.

[Lisa now in AZ]

I read an article this morning, primarily focused on the incompetence of the sheriff. Either he wasn't well vetted, or people didn't care since he was up on many charges at his last job in Texas, and finally quit before he got fired.  I wish I could say that he wouldn't be given that choice this time, but, I don't see that happening.

[RescueLover]

@manny2


That’s True. Makes sense.


The PI also believes he had a police scanner in his pocket and an ear piece to listen to it under his hat.


I had only heard walkie talkie to communicate with someone else or a WIFI jammer.

[manny2]

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@RescueLover wrote:

@manny2


That’s True. Makes sense.


The PI also believes he had a police scanner in his pocket and an ear piece to listen to it under his hat.


I had only heard walkie talkie to communicate with someone else or a WIFI jammer.

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A police scanner doesn’t really make sense in this situation. @RescueLover  They are loud, full of static, and hard to understand even in perfect conditions. What he had in his pocket looked much more like a walkie‑talkie or some kind of communication device. They knew they couldn’t have cell phones on or off.  The Wi‑Fi jammer theory doesn’t fit either, because the camera still recorded him. A walkie‑talkie is the simplest explanation.

[elated]

On You tube, Jay is 4 justice podcast, was showing videos of Annie Guthrie removing boxes from Nancy's house three days ago. She parked her car in the garage.

[RescueLover]

@manny2


I thought a walkie talkie too.

[San Antonio Gal]

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@elated wrote:

On You tube, Jay is 4 justice podcast, was showing videos of Annie Guthrie removing boxes from Nancy's house three days ago. She parked her car in the garage.

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Was any comment made on what she was removing from the home @elated ?