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@manny2 wrote:

@Etoile308 wrote:

 


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Yep. He should do what’s best. Maybe they’ll force him to resign by giving him an ultimatum ? You wouldn’t think he would take the chance of losing his retirement benefits.



I understand your point, @Etoile308  but in this situation the concerns being raised don’t come from one organization or a handful of disgruntled people. When roughly 90–95% of a department reports dissatisfaction, that reflects a widespread internal problem, not isolated frustration. Many employees have independently described the same issues, which suggests a deeper pattern.

 

From the beginning, the level of public visibility and commentary was unusual for a law‑enforcement leader, and it created the impression that the spotlight was part of the appeal. That’s why some people feel the current situation isn’t just politics, it’s a response to long‑standing concerns from within the agency itself.



@manny2, I am in no way going to justify how this guy was ever hired, someone certainly failed to do any due diligence in his background check. He never should have been hired in the first place.

 

But as a point of clarification he is running a department of 1,500, with 900 of them as sworn deputies. This union only comprises 307 deputies. Per the union's Facebook page of those there were 241 members voting no confidence. That's a far cry from 90-95% of a department.


Often it does come down to, better the devil you know.

 

There has been unprofessional behavior in many aspects of this investigation. And the entire department would benefit greatly with a media spokesperson. I take issue with anyone using the national spotlight on their department and using the opportunity for their own personal grievances. That does nothing but attempt to tarnish the reputation and professionalism of everyone within the department. It's an ill timed distraction and does absolutely nothing to assist in furthering the investigation.


How Pima County chooses to deal with their sheriff is its own matter. I don't see an administrative change at this time to be in their best interest. 

 

 

 

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@JeanLouiseFinch, I seldom watch The Interview Room, primarily because of Chris McDonough, the last man who should be criticizing anyone in LE.

 

His singular tunnel vision is repeatedly on display. As is his twisting of basic investigative procedures that don't fit his agenda.

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I think Nancy was targeted by someone familiar with her. I think the motive was driven by hate towards her and her beliefs. I think ransom may have been a possibility, but not the main motive. I don't think and actual ransom demand was communicated  because she didn't survive for long.

 

It was released that nothing was taken from the house, but who knows if that's true. The time delay in the house may have been due to a search for valuables, but I think a struggle took place. I also wondered since this, to me was anger driven, if she also didn't endure an additional assault.

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After reading the New York Post (nypost dot com) article titled below I am totally aghast and regret that I ever gave JLR (Jonathan Lee Riches) any of my attention.  

There’s one case true crime YouTuber JLR Investigates isn’t covering: Ex’s allegations he beat and strangled her


 

@JeanLouiseFinch, it will be interesting to see how this plays out in a few weeks. I think the domestic violence allegation and JLR himself, are seriously being investigated. There have been unsubstantiated rumors that charges many be pending. And those charges may go beyond DV assault.

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@Etoile308 wrote:

@JeanLouiseFinch, I seldom watch The Interview Room, primarily because of Chris McDonough, the last man who should be criticizing anyone in LE.

 

His singular tunnel vision is repeatedly on display. As is his twisting of basic investigative procedures that don't fit his agenda.


You've already shared your dislike for him in this thread, @Etoile308, so your comment was expected.  An agenda is when someone will personally benefit from a particular situaton's outcome. Chris and his panel of seasoned experts bring many, many decades of training and experience to the conversation. They are trained to observe crime scenes, behaviors, dissect information, and ask the appropriate questions to make things make sense.  

 

There's been a variety of speculation out there; a Mexican drug cartel, South American crew, a connection to deceased convict JE, the local people whose home was raided by 30+ LE, LE checking gunshops with pictures of 40-ish individuals, none of which panned out.  But something police saw was of high enough importance to confiscate a car for forensic examination, visit a home multiple times, examine areas of a home in daylight and darkness, confiscate and process cell phones, remove items from said home, etc.  The panel does seem to be leaning in a a particular direction because they have those certain abilities and knowledge, and right now it adds up, based on the current information they've had access to.  When new information becomes available they have the ability and obligation to reassemble the puzzle.  If something makes sense or doesn't make sense, these panelists are trained to figure out how and why or why not.  No one on the panel has a dog in the fight so I don't see how any of the members has  an agenda.  We will continue to be at odds here, @Etoile308, and will have to agree to disagree.

 

Given Chris Nanos' history and reasons why he's received a 100% vote of no confidence, I have certain unfavorable opinions about him regarding this case.  

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@Etoile308 wrote:

@JeanLouiseFinch wrote:

After reading the New York Post (nypost dot com) article titled below I am totally aghast and regret that I ever gave JLR (Jonathan Lee Riches) any of my attention.  

There’s one case true crime YouTuber JLR Investigates isn’t covering: Ex’s allegations he beat and strangled her


 

@JeanLouiseFinch, it will be interesting to see how this plays out in a few weeks. I think the domestic violence allegation and JLR himself, are seriously being investigated. There have been unsubstantiated rumors that charges many be pending. And those charges may go beyond DV assault.


@Etoile308 - no stone should be left unturned. He has quite a history, so I've learned.  Anything is possible. If allegations/charges are verified and he's convicted, he should spend a long time back in the slammer.  No matter what, his diehards will defend him.

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There’s no doubt in my mind that LE is paying close attention to Chris M’s Interview Room.


And also Brian Entin’s channel with FBI experts etc. etc.
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i have been folowing this faithfully on youtube... but lately i have to turn it off... its just people playing guessing games on what happened.. same thing over and over.. the newest news is she was taken out the back door... ok? which one? there's 3 apparently. now its guessing games and talk for hours on which one..... this is a sad case that is going no where.... i think it will be a cold case for sure.. sad to say, but her remains i think will never be found.. and who ever did this i think it may be a very long time..

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Did A or T ever say why they didn't pick up Nancy?

 

I find it hard to believe that Nancy would insist on paying for an Uber since they live close to each other. It doesn't make sense.

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A and T may both have been working. I don't know the distance between their home and Nancy's or what time they planned to have dinner. Does anyone know?