Community Chat

[manny2]

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@occasionalrain wrote:

No one I know wants to be treated as incompetent, a child. Driven about, moved from their home, constantly reminded in big and small ways that they're old aka useless and worse, a burden. 

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I agree @occasionalrain Let’s stop defining people by age. And I don’t just mean on this board,  I mean in general. A person is more than a number or a physical condition. Reducing her to “84 and frail” misses who she was. She had health and mobility issues, but they were apparently well‑managed. She lived independently, drove, used Uber, and maintained a social life.

[Etoile308]

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@Mz iMac wrote:

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@Etoile308 wrote:

I'm wondering if those following this senseless kidnapping watched the interview the local CBS Tucson channel had with the individual who was stopped and detained in the later towed Range Rover. His house was the one search by the FBI.

Not naming names.

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@Etoile308   Why not?  

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@Mz iMac, because the individual has not been arrested or officially named as a suspect. 

I think naming those names may get a post deleted, possibly even the entire thread to go poof. It's easy enough to locate the information with a few search words.

[Etoile308]

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@manny2 wrote:

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@occasionalrain wrote:

No one I know wants to be treated as incompetent, a child. Driven about, moved from their home, constantly reminded in big and small ways that they're old aka useless and worse, a burden. 

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I agree @occasionalrain Let’s stop defining people by age. And I don’t just mean on this board,  I mean in general. A person is more than a number or a physical condition. Reducing her to “84 and frail” misses who she was. She had health and mobility issues, but they were apparently well‑managed. She lived independently, drove, used Uber, and maintained a social life.

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Amen to both of you. And I'll add, stop assuming all families should mirror their own. 

[Etoile308]

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@Daludog wrote:
. You are entitled to your opinion as I am mine. But I would not want my kids around someone who has his dark beliefs.call me old fashioned or whatever but no way.

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@Daludog, how does anyone know the man's beliefs? 

Internet chatter? My internet chatter said he is beloved by his students, and respected by their parents and his coworkers.

Bottom line, we don't know squat about this person, his beliefs, or his wife's beliefs. And since when has being Wiccan become something negative?

[Linmo]

I don't think that Nancy's chlldren should be blamed for their mom wanting her independence. 

My 93 year old dad is the same way.  The only thing that I wonder about Nancy is if it woud have a difference if she wore an alert button.  My dad does, although he didn't start wearing it until his late 80's.  Just a tip for those of us with elderly parents.

Nancy is only 84 and her mind is still very sharp, although she has health and mobility issues.  I am using the present tense when referring to her.  I realize that she has probably left us by now.  I'm glad that Savannah will return to work when she is ready.  

[Etoile308]

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@Daludog wrote:
Not sure what gossip you are referring to. I got my info from watching the Chris Mcdonough show and also they took his computer and had it checked by a group that only works on child sex crimes. It was told she and tommaso are by Maureen retired from FBI. Tommaso computer checked by cellubrite not sure correctly spelled. They only look and check for child sex crimes if they find something suspicious on someone s computer.

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I don't get wrapped up watching the like me, subscribe to me, make me some money click here YouTubers.

I have no doubt all electronic were requested or seized. Since it's been stated by LE that the family is cooperating, that suggested they voluntarily submitted their electronics. Cellebrite forensically is used to analyze information relating to all crimes. To imply they are solely searching for something relating to child sex crimes is nothing short of attempting to malign a teacher's reputation.

And this Chris McDonough knows for a fact that if anything relating to crimes against a child were found, this individual would immediately be behind bars.

[calmwaters]

Please keep in mind two other threads of the same topic were removed for becoming "argumentative" live and let live, and that means we may not like or agree with opinions.

[Daludog]

I don't subscribe to you tube channel s I watch as a guest when I find something interesting. And as for Chrs Mcdonough and the cellebrite if you watched he said not necessarily would he be arrested right away. It depends on what is found. As for any other of My thoughts I will keep them to myself. If I don't like what someone says here I just skip over them.

[JeanLouiseFinch]

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@Daludog wrote:
I don't subscribe to you tube channel s I watch as a guest when I find something interesting. And as for Chrs Mcdonough and the cellebrite if you watched he said not necessarily would he be arrested right away. It depends on what is found. As for any other of My thoughts I will keep them to myself. If I don't like what someone says here I just skip over them.

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@Daludog - what are you actually doing on the Cellebrite site, to see items of interest that involve this case?  I went there, typed in Nancy Guthrie in the search bar, but nothing comes up.  There are a lot of articles about other things; their services, products, solutions, etc.  Is it in the My Cellebrite tab?  To access there, one needs to set up an account with log in info.

Or, is Cellebrite a misspelling? 

[manny2]

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@Linmo wrote:

I don't think that Nancy's chlldren should be blamed for their mom wanting her independence. 

My 93 year old dad is the same way.  The only thing that I wonder about Nancy is if it woud have a difference if she wore an alert button.  My dad does, although he didn't start wearing it until his late 80's.  Just a tip for those of us with elderly parents.

Nancy is only 84 and her mind is still very sharp, although she has health and mobility issues.  I am using the present tense when referring to her.  I realize that she has probably left us by now.  I'm glad that Savannah will return to work when she is ready.  

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Nancy is independent, but her situation is also a cautionary tale: anyone living alone should have some kind of alert system, even something simple like a door‑camera notification to a family member, or an emergency button that can call for help if they are in trouble.